On 19 Nov 2019, at 11:40, Johannes Brakensiek <johan...@brakensiek.info> wrote: > > Hi Sergii, > > thank you for your reply! > > On 19 Nov 2019, at 0:39, Sergii Stoian wrote: > >> Frankly speaking I don’t like themes idea almost totally. It’s hard to >> achieve desired look and feel with themes without coding (overriding some >> class methods). Plus themes support bloats the GNUstep codebase. > > I’m not into the details of the theming implementation, but to me it looks a > GNUstep based DE would be far from being bloated compared to other current > DEs. ;) > I hope. ;)
>> I understand that the initial idea was to attract more users/developers, >> but… It’s not working. > > Hm, yes. I think developers don’t need a nice UI at first place (and I think > most of what developers need luckily is already provided by Apple as of > today). But developers need happy users (if you’re not developing only for > yourself) and I think happy users need a stable, solid and consistent UX. > That would be provided by a NextStep based UI guideline. But they also need a > pretty UI (which is not what you’d call that NextStep look nowadays, imho). > My initial idea was to make my dream come true - have NeXTSTEP for my own use: fast, reliable and consistent. I would be glad if other people share my taste. If you like macOS/KDE/GNOME - why should you use GNUstep-based DE? >> So, I want to make ideal NEXTSTEP interface first. Who knows maybe some day >> I’ll want to change it to macOS-like… ;) > > I think: Do it (some days earlier). From a users perspective my heart was > filled with joy and happiness when I saw what Bertrand had compiled here: > https://github.com/BertrandDekoninck/rik.theme/blob/master/newscreen.png ;) > > If we’d have some more screenshots of well crafted software looking like > this, it would be a huge benefit regarding the public impression of GNUstep. > It doesn’t need to be macOS, but to have a free DE that’s getting close > regarding UX/UI would be a thing I’d really like to see and work with. > (Especially since Apple is currently driving the development of macOS to a > state where I won’t want to use it anymore…) > Great - it’s your choice. Just do it. ;) >> Etoile is great effort to create macOS-like DE with great fundamental >> frameworks inside. I wish to borrow some of them someday… But its >> development stopped AFAIK. > > Yes, sadly. Merge it, use it. Once I come to start writing a serious app I’ll > give CoreObject a try and see how it works. ;) > > Keep up your good work Thank you. I’ll do all my best. > Johannes > Sergii