>I have, and I say they open to interpretation, and that they do not
>require the level of investigation you are claiming they do.

If I am "any person", and I submit data to them that is wrong, the 
advisory says that they have to finish it through to get it 
corrected.  Where are you seeing the "out-clause" you're giving them?

>I do not believe that the registrar is at all required to make the
>claim process easy, in fact I believe they should make it quite
>difficult to file a fraudulent claim, requiring perhaps proof that the
>complainant has made an attempt at verify the data is false.

If I hand a registrar a personal domain registration with a street 
address of "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue", I don't need to wait for a 
response from the White House to know that Bill Smith doesn't 
actually live there. Nor should I need to show a phone record that 
"914-555-1212" didn't reach the owner of Widgets.com. It is (and 
should) be enough to say "look at the record, the data is obviously 
false".

>The agreement says they have to accept them from anyone, but it does
>not say HOW they must accept them, nor what requirements they may or
>may not impose on them.

It doesn't permit them to impose requirements. It says they must 
accept them from "any person" and then meet "reasonable measures". It 
then goes on to define "minimum" reasonable measures, which include 
actually starting the investigation process. (The "reasonable 
measures" seem to be to ensure that the registrar doesn't get a 
complaint "Foo.com has bad data, the real data should be XXXXX", and 
have them replace it, as well as to actually pay attention to the 
"corrected" data for integrity).

>As with most things, Derek, things are not the black and white that
>you and your black list group would like them to be.

Actually, when it comes to RFC-compliance, things really are black 
and white, by and large. There are some grey areas, true, but this 
isn't really one of them.

>I still don't understand why you don't just blockade off ALL domains
>from your service, and only allow email from domains that have entered
>into an agreement with you to do things your way. It would make much
>more sense.

Because that would make no sense. The only people being blocked are 
the ones who think the rules don't apply to them.  By and large, 
those aren't the types of people I'd want to talk to anyway.

In this case "my way" are the RFC's.

D

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