My problem with this is that Registrars are holding domain names for years after they expire with nothing being done about the problem.
So why is the problem so great just because the Whois information is wrong? In my opinion, any domain that is not being used to host a site within 90 days of being registered should be returned to the registry for somebody that would actually use the domain. I know this is considered radical and will probably generate howls of outrage, but what is the difference between this and taking a domain name after 30 or x number days due to the Whois information being wrong. :) Either case the domain is not being used. So whether the Whois information is correct or not should not matter. But my original point was let's clean up the Registrars before worrying about the few domain owners with wrong Whois information. The Registrars are doing more damage to the system by refusing to list expired domain names than domain owners who provide the wrong contact information. And those who register domain names on speculation and hold them for years without using them are doing even more wrong to the system. We would not have a problem with a shortage of current TLDs if the Registrars were forced to release expired domain names and domain name speculation was not allowed. Just my opinion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek J. Balling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ezgoing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "George Kirikos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:41 AM Subject: Re: WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions > A couple other thoughts, from someone interested in this topic: > > Hold after 15d. Delete 90d after held. If the domain isn't working for > a month, and the domainholder hasn't contacted anyone to get it > resolved, and is unreachable, I don't see a need to hang on to the > domain much longer when others might actually be "responsible" > landlords of the domain. :) > > On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:03 AM, ezgoing wrote: > > > I agree that 15 days is not reasonable. > > > > I believe that the policy of Verisign and other Registrars not > > releasing > > expired domains is more of a problem than the Whois information not > > being > > accurate. Why hasn't anything ever been done about this problem? > > > > It would be nice if it was accurate but it should require a registered > > letter before the domain could be deleted. Place it on hold after 15 > > days, > > delete after three months if there is no response to a registered > > letter. > > > > Ed > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "George Kirikos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:15 AM > > Subject: WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions > > > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> Folks might not be aware of discussions going on in the WHOIS accuracy > >> task force of the DNSO/GNSO. See: > >> > >> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/msg00806.html > >> > >> for instance. > >> > >> Am I the only one who is concerned that a legitimately held name might > >> be deleted due to a simple failure to respond within 15 days? Given > >> the > >> amount of spam out there (it's easy to accidentally skip over an > >> email, > >> thinking it was spam), and lack of guaranteed delivery of email, I > >> think that this is a very dangerous and poorly thought-out proposal > >> for > >> legitimate domain holders, especially those with small staffs (or > >> self-employed). I am all for WHOIS accuracy (it helps to promote > >> responsible internet usage, and reduce abuse behaviour), but there > >> needs to be some balance in that proposal. If someone goes on holidays > >> for 3 weeks, or misses an email, conceivably they could find all their > >> valuable domains are no longer held by them! > >> > >> I would hope that OpenSRS and other leading registrars would implement > >> a "white-list" (where domain WHOIS is permanently marked as > >> "accurate", > >> or if not permanent than for long intervals of months, not days) of > >> protected names, or other mechanisms to ensure that legitimate and > >> correct domains are not hijacked through misuse of this policy, and > >> that domains are protected. "Rogue" domain holders, with obviously > >> fake > >> WHOIS should be pursued, but legitimate holders should be protected. > >> > >> If AT&T, AOL, Google or another elite company moves its offices, and > >> happens to not update their WHOIS records for a few weeks, should they > >> lose *all* of their domains? Obviously not...they have the lawyers > >> (and > >> trademarks) to ensure that they'd get back any domain name that their > >> registrar deletes, but smaller companies do not! > >> > >> Every summer, a lot of people move to new homes or apartments -- > >> should > >> they all be rushing to change their WHOIS the exact moment they move, > >> or fear losing all their domain names? > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> George Kirikos > >> http://www.kirikos.com/ > > >
