Hi Ian, just a few thoughts ... some other topics made my spare time reserve disappear :-)
Am Sonntag, den 14.11.2010, 20:30 +0000 schrieb Ian Lynch: > > >From my point-of-view, this is different. Inkscape is a graphic tool > > that is used by experienced designers. We may assume that those guys do > > have better hardware (e.g. larger screens). And, Inkscape does have > > another concept with docked panes ... > > > Inkscape is used by kids in primary schools so the argument about > professional designers doesn't really hold water - I use it on a netbook! So > why not have docked panes in Draw? If it works well offer it. Simple. Because the topic wasn't about docked panes, but about the transformation dialog. And, "used" varies. If we compare functionality, then it should be compared on a given use case. I agree that Inkscape is a great tool and much more handy for kids - in my point of view, because simple things like like moving objects, drag-and-drop, ... works better. But, to be efficient within complex graphics, the task pane of Inkscape just "grabs" a lot of space (which then has to be scrolled, or you have to undock it and move it around, ...). Fortunately, in our case, position control is given via the toolbars - not only via the task pane. By the way, Christian Lippka offered a nice "private" teaser some weeks ago. This is about how the layout might work for such task panes: http://lippka.com/teaser.png However, the original discussion was about avoiding iterative opening/closing the position dialog. And the given proposal was to - first - improve the positioning first. > We - in contrast - develop an office suite that also targets other > > "markets" like developing countries. Although the minimum system > > requirements state "1024x768", the design for OOo still targets netbook > > resolutions. If there would have been more space, I would have designed > > the new printing dialog differently :-) > > I don't buy this at all. I use a netbook regularly and I don't see any > advantages in using Draw over inkscape in that environment. Neither are > ideal on that size screen. If you are short of RAM and processor power I'd > say OOo is going to cause you more problems that Inkscape ;-) That's correct. I come back to comparing use cases - I find it very difficult to write longer documents with Inkscape ;-) The point is, the main design (was/is) based on the whole office suite with all the applications. Currently, Draw is more or less a nice addition, because the codebase nearly identical with Impress. Sometimes a huge advantage, sometimes not ... [... effort of moving / opening / closing dialogs over and over again ... ] > If you don't have to call it up why is there any manual effort? Just ignore > it exists. [...] Because it (guess *g*) - doesn't help to solve the initially given use case. If you want to precisely move objects, you have to use it. That is a design flaw ... it wouldn't be necessary (that often) if we could improve the resizing and moving behavior. Okay, back to other topics ... or better, back to doing something with Inkscape :-) Cheers, Christoph -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
