On 3 July 2011 21:38, Robert Derman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ian Lynch wrote: > >> On 2 July 2011 23:22, Robert Derman <[email protected]> wrote >> >> >>> Keith Curtis wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The problem with building a reader is that it would be about the same >>>> size >>>> as LibreOffice. OpenDocument is very different from PDF. For those who >>>> can't >>>> install LO, they probably can't install the reader either >>>> >>>> >>> Perhaps separating the modules of LO so that users could download and >>> install only the parts that they actually want, for instance I NEVER use >>> spreadsheets and probably never would use any part of the LO package >>> other >>> than Writer. There is a small chance that I might use the database, but >>> the >>> rest of it never. >>> >> >> The snag as I understand it is that there is a lot of code shared between >> components so separating them is not easy and would not result in as big a >> saving in "size" as one would think. I use Writer but I tend to use Google >> spreadsheets as I need to share them collaboratively. I use Inkscape >> rather >> than Draw simply because I like it better. I doubt I would ever use Base. >> Perhaps Impress on occasions. But I think Impress and Draw share a lot of >> code so its probably not going to save much having one without the other. >> >> I believe there is quite a bit of redundant code in OOo so would a better >> starting point not be to get rid of as much of this as possible? >> >> > As I understand this is being done by the LO developers and much more > effectively than OOo ever did. As I understand doing a general clean-up of > the code was never a priority with Sun management, although it probably > should have been. > Good to know. What I am wondering is if there aren't a lot of users like me who only ever > use Writer and are not likely to ever use any of the other modules. Probably. > In any case, I think that it might be a good idea to do a survey of LO > users and find out how many only use one of the modules, and if so which > one. If such a survey shows that a substantial number say 40% of users only > use Writer, then it might be a good idea to work to be able to offer a > Writer only package. I know that if a Writer only package were available > from LibreOffice, that is what I would download and use. what if a Writer only package only save 30% of the code size, was quite a lot of work to achieve and then you were left with two sets of code to maintain? Would it be worth it? Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see independent components. I'd also like to see at least Writer on Smartphones and Tablets and I'd like to see a good web implementation of Writer. All about the resources and priorities in the end. To produce such a package I expect, would mean stripping out ALL code not > used specifically by Writer. Depends how modular things are. That I don't know. My impression is that OOo was designed in a megalithic way to make integration of the apps more seamless. > As an example, back when I was using Microsoft, I never used office, I > only purchased Word, I never had or wanted Excel, PowerPoint, or any of the > other programs that make up the Office package. What I bought and > recommended to others was a package called Home Essentials. As I remember > it had the Encarta encyclopedia, MS Money, MS Works and other stuff, but the > important thing was that it included a full copy of Word at a lower price > than you would otherwise pay for Word alone. Whatever, anyway the point I > am making is that I was only interested in Word, (this was all before OOo > was available) and I suspect that I am not all that unusual as far as end > users are concerned. > I think their are fundamental design differences between MS Office and OOo that make this less than straightforward to do. -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+help@**documentfoundation.org<discuss%[email protected]> > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** > Netiquette <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > List archive: > http://listarchives.**documentfoundation.org/www/**discuss/<http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/> > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
