> On 16 Mar 2022, at 17:27, Vahan Hovsepyan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Maksym and all!
Hi Vahan, all
technical discussions, communication, contacts don't live in the vacuum. They
are based on the people communication. I think that if you prepare to wait
until the communications in the former ENOG region will come back you have to
live veeeery long.
>
> I might agree or disagree with your position on what you call fundamental
> human things, we can have a dispute on this matters and have a complete
> understanding, develop activities and actions, but, in my understanding, NOG
> platform is not a place for such discussions.
>
> ENOG definition is-ENOG (Eurasia Network Operators Group) is the forum where
> technology experts from Eastern Europe, Caucasus and Central Asia gather to
> discuss core operational issues and share ideas in evolving the Internet in
> the region.
>
> MENOG definition is-The Middle East Network Operators Group Meeting and
> Peering Forum (MENOG) offers a platform for key Internet builders in the
> region to learn from their peers and other leaders in the Internet community
> from around the world.
>
> Should the technical community discuss what is happening now in Ukraine AND
> other countries of RIPE NCC service region, call for actions, activities,
> have a position papers, etc? Definitely yes, we are humans and citizens apart
> of everything, we feel the pain and each of us has his own political views.
> But this, I believe, should not be at the platforms, called to be the place
> for technical discussions.
>
> With all the respect,
>
> Vahan
>
> As it is On 2022-03-16 17:46, Maksym Kozub wrote:
>> Hi Vahan and everybody.
>> 16.03.2022 13:41, Vahan Hovsepyan wrote:
>>> At the time of changes, it is very important to keep communication alive,
>>> especially when we see so many new threats for the networks each day.
>> Communication _is_ important; I know it as a human being, as an
>> Internet user from early 1990s (and BITNET user since mid-1980s), as a
>> professional interpreter and translator for the last 27 years, etc.
>> _However_, in the same way as there is "a time to scatter stones and a
>> time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from
>> embracing", there are times to keep and develop communication, and
>> times to refrain from communication with some parties.
>> It is not about politics as such; it is about fundamental human
>> things. Russia has recently demonstrated that it does not care about
>> those things. It has demonstrated as a country that it does not want
>> to be a part of the global community (even though many of its citizens
>> disagree with that position). Therefore, while the Internet is a
>> global communication platform of great value, there are limits to any
>> communication, in terms of using this platform, discussing it,
>> developing it, etc.
>> I clearly understand that it would be unrealistic to expect any action
>> whereby Russian entities would be deprived of all their IPv4 and IPv6
>> blocks, routing from and to Russian ASs would be blocked, etc.
>> However, if it would happen, I would welcome it.
>> Sapienti sat.
>
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> Sincerely,
>
> Vahan Hovsepyan
> External Relations Officer
> Central Asia and Caucasus
> RIPE NCC
> Tel.+374 94 258900
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