Dear Vahan, We must separate words and messages from facts and reality. Here, the words and the messages: ENOG (Eurasia Network Operators Group) is the forum where technology experts from Eastern Europe, Caucasus and Central Asia. The facts and the reality: despite all the regional claims ENOG always was Russian speaking, exUSSR oriented forum. So, by closing ENOG we just accept the reality.
Best withes, Maksym Tulyuk On 16 Mar 2022, 16:28 +0100, Vahan Hovsepyan <[email protected]>, wrote: > Hi, Maksym and all! > > I might agree or disagree with your position on what you call > fundamental human things, we can have a dispute on this matters and have > a complete understanding, develop activities and actions, but, in my > understanding, NOG platform is not a place for such discussions. > > ENOG definition is-ENOG (Eurasia Network Operators Group) is the forum > where technology experts from Eastern Europe, Caucasus and Central Asia > gather to discuss core operational issues and share ideas in evolving > the Internet in the region. > > MENOG definition is-The Middle East Network Operators Group Meeting and > Peering Forum (MENOG) offers a platform for key Internet builders in the > region to learn from their peers and other leaders in the Internet > community from around the world. > > Should the technical community discuss what is happening now in Ukraine > AND other countries of RIPE NCC service region, call for actions, > activities, have a position papers, etc? Definitely yes, we are humans > and citizens apart of everything, we feel the pain and each of us has > his own political views. But this, I believe, should not be at the > platforms, called to be the place for technical discussions. > > With all the respect, > > Vahan > > As it is On 2022-03-16 17:46, Maksym Kozub wrote: > > Hi Vahan and everybody. > > > > 16.03.2022 13:41, Vahan Hovsepyan wrote: > > > At the time of changes, it is very important to keep communication > > > alive, especially when we see so many new threats for the networks > > > each day. > > > > Communication _is_ important; I know it as a human being, as an > > Internet user from early 1990s (and BITNET user since mid-1980s), as a > > professional interpreter and translator for the last 27 years, etc. > > _However_, in the same way as there is "a time to scatter stones and a > > time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from > > embracing", there are times to keep and develop communication, and > > times to refrain from communication with some parties. > > > > It is not about politics as such; it is about fundamental human > > things. Russia has recently demonstrated that it does not care about > > those things. It has demonstrated as a country that it does not want > > to be a part of the global community (even though many of its citizens > > disagree with that position). Therefore, while the Internet is a > > global communication platform of great value, there are limits to any > > communication, in terms of using this platform, discussing it, > > developing it, etc. > > > > I clearly understand that it would be unrealistic to expect any action > > whereby Russian entities would be deprived of all their IPv4 and IPv6 > > blocks, routing from and to Russian ASs would be blocked, etc. > > However, if it would happen, I would welcome it. > > > > Sapienti sat. > > -- > Sincerely, > > Vahan Hovsepyan > External Relations Officer > Central Asia and Caucasus > RIPE NCC > Tel.+374 94 258900 > E-mail: [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.enog.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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