On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Adi Kamdar <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm not *too* knowledgeable about how Congress works, but I do know that the > bill was only just introduced and has been referred to the House Committee > on the Judiciary. > > Funny thing is that Conyers is the current chairman of the Head Committee on > the Judiciary. Hmm. > > But basically the bill still has to go to Subcommittee (although, maybe not, > since it's IP related), the full Committee, then the Rules Committee, then > it's debated and voted on by the full House. etc. etc. (See: Schoolhouse > Rock) > > Here's an article by James Boyle about this... worth a read/laugh. > http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a110fa6-0219-11de-8199-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1 > > As far as action, letters seem to be a good start--both to Conyers and to > school newspapers. I... am not sure what else. > -Adi 1. Get the times for movement of the bill. 2. Gather a serious group of serious people to go Washington to meet with Representative Conyers, and/or the committees. Join with other organizations. 3. Write a definite statement of why Congress must not hand the results of research you and I paid for to private parties who intend to re-sell to us the reasearch results we have already paid for. 4. Go to Washington with as large and strong a group as you can put together. Speak directly with your Representatives and Senators. Speak to the Executive branch also. Speak to Conyers. oo--JS. > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Kevin Donovan <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I don't know what that coordinated action would look like, but I do think >> it should have some sort of real-world manifestation - mass mailings to >> Conyers or something. >> >> But before we do that, does anyone who understands how Congress works have >> info on where this bill stands? >> >> From speaking with Georgetown's head of federal relations, it seems like >> this isn't that far along. But it would help to understand what choke points >> we should target... >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Definitely. I'm also thinking of some kind of coordinated action across FC >>> chapters, and/or site to coordinate action across the web. What else is out >>> there so far? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Kevin Donovan <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> A very easy thing to do is inform other university community members >>>> about this. I wrote an OpEd for the Georgetown newspaper. Feel free to >>>> re-appropriate it: http://thehoya.com/node/18112 >>>> >>>> And get in touch with the librarians. They are great on this issue. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Gavin Baker <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> The place to start for ideas: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.righttoresearch.org/ >>>>> >>>>> Brian Rowe wrote: >>>>>> This would be a large step backwards for OA. I am in for what ever we >>>>>> want to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is a little more info on the finicing of the bill from Nathan >>>>>> Georgette's Open Access Blog >>>>>> <http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/following-money-on-hr801.html> : >>>>>> >>>>>> Two days ago, I issued an urgent call to action >>>>>> < >>>>> http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/stand-for-open-access-oppose-hr801.html >>>>>> >>>>>> concerning HR801, re-introduced by Congressional Representative >>>>> John >>>>>> Conyers (D-MI), which would essentially reverse the NIH Open >>>>> Access >>>>>> policy. I have much respect for Representative Conyers, especially >>>>>> on his health care policies. Thus, I was greatly disturbed upon >>>>>> hearing of this development. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wanted to know why Conyers would do such a thing, and began >>>>>> investigating the money trail on Conyers' campaign contributions >>>>>> (thanks Alex for the idea!). What I came upon sank my heart. >>>>>> According to Open Secrets >>>>>> <http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004029 >>>>>> , >>>>>> Conyers' third single largest campaign contributor in 2008 was the >>>>>> American Intellectual Property Law Association >>>>>> <http://www.aipla.org/> (AIPLA), whose "Key Bills of the 111th >>>>>> Congress >>>>>> < >>>>> http://www.aipla.org/Content/NavigationMenu/IP_Issues_and_Advocacy/Legislation1/111th_Congress/Key_Bills_of_the_111th/Key_Bills_of_the_111th.htm >>>>>> " >>>>>> include HR801. Surprised? Shouldn't be. Money talks, and big money >>>>>> talks that much louder. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I joined the AIPLA last year as a student and was very unimpressed >>>>> they >>>>>> are on the ultra protectionist side of IP, I choose not to renew the >>>>>> membership this year. They have been recruiting students and >>>>> professor >>>>>> rather heavily over the last few years I am curious if we have any >>>>>> active members of the AIPLA that are willing to speak out. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Brian Rowe >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we can do something kind of big here. Barbie in a Blender >>>>>> style.. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Gavin Baker < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, please get involved :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Need any help, holla at me! >>>>>> >>>>>> Elizabeth Stark wrote: >>>>>> > There's a great opportunity for us to get involved in >>>>> activism >>>>>> against >>>>>> > this bill, especially involving chapters. Ideas for how we >>>>> can >>>>>> best do >>>>>> > this? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I know Change Congress is looking to target it as well. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Rob Myers < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/16/scientific-publisher.html >>>>>> > >>>>>> > "Steve sez, "Currently, the National Institutes of >>>>> Health >>>>>> require >>>>>> > NIH-funded research to be published in open-access >>>>>> repositories. In a >>>>>> > cop to for-profit science publishers, Congressional >>>>>> Representative >>>>>> > John Conyers (D-MI) has re-introduced a bill (HR801) >>>>> that >>>>>> essentially >>>>>> > would negate the NIH policy concerning depositing >>>>> research >>>>>> in OA >>>>>> > repositories. The bill goes further than prohibiting >>>>> open >>>>>> access >>>>>> > requirements, however, as the bill also prohibits >>>>>> government agencies >>>>>> > from obtaining a license to publicly distribute, >>>>> perform, >>>>>> or display >>>>>> > such work by, for example, placing it on the Internet, >>>>> and >>>>>> would >>>>>> > repeal the longstanding 'federal purpose' doctrine, >>>>> under >>>>>> which all >>>>>> > federal agencies that fund the creation of a copyrighted >>>>>> work reserve >>>>>> > the 'royalty-free, nonexclusive right to reproduce, >>>>>> publish, or >>>>>> > otherwise use the work' for any federal purpose. The >>>>> bill >>>>>> is bad >>>>>> > news." 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