If we don't live in any of the Representatives' constituencies, what's the best course of action? Contact our *own* representative? Will that have much of an effect? -Adi
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Nelson Pavlosky <[email protected]>wrote: > According to the Alliance for Taxpayer Access, the first thing we > should do is take action and contact our Representatives TODAY! > > http://www.taxpayeraccess.org/action/HR801-09-0211.html > > I'm honestly not sure why the deadline is today, but I'm sure there is > a good reason related to the legislative process. > > ~Nelson~ > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Adi Kamdar <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm not too knowledgeable about how Congress works, but I do know that > the > > bill was only just introduced and has been referred to the House > Committee > > on the Judiciary. > > > > Funny thing is that Conyers is the current chairman of the Head Committee > on > > the Judiciary. Hmm. > > > > But basically the bill still has to go to Subcommittee (although, maybe > not, > > since it's IP related), the full Committee, then the Rules Committee, > then > > it's debated and voted on by the full House. etc. etc. (See: Schoolhouse > > Rock) > > > > Here's an article by James Boyle about this... worth a read/laugh. > > > http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a110fa6-0219-11de-8199-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1 > > > > As far as action, letters seem to be a good start--both to Conyers and to > > school newspapers. I... am not sure what else. > > -Adi > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Kevin Donovan <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> I don't know what that coordinated action would look like, but I do > think > >> it should have some sort of real-world manifestation - mass mailings to > >> Conyers or something. > >> > >> But before we do that, does anyone who understands how Congress works > have > >> info on where this bill stands? > >> > >> From speaking with Georgetown's head of federal relations, it seems like > >> this isn't that far along. But it would help to understand what choke > points > >> we should target... > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Definitely. I'm also thinking of some kind of coordinated action across > >>> FC chapters, and/or site to coordinate action across the web. What else > is > >>> out there so far? > >>> > >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Kevin Donovan <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> A very easy thing to do is inform other university community members > >>>> about this. I wrote an OpEd for the Georgetown newspaper. Feel free to > >>>> re-appropriate it: http://thehoya.com/node/18112 > >>>> > >>>> And get in touch with the librarians. They are great on this issue. > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Gavin Baker <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The place to start for ideas: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.righttoresearch.org/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Brian Rowe wrote: > >>>>> > This would be a large step backwards for OA. I am in for what ever > >>>>> > we > >>>>> > want to do. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Here is a little more info on the finicing of the bill from Nathan > >>>>> > Georgette's Open Access Blog > >>>>> > <http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/following-money-on-hr801.html> > : > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Two days ago, I issued an urgent call to action > >>>>> > > >>>>> > < > http://openaccessblog.com/2009/02/stand-for-open-access-oppose-hr801.html> > >>>>> > concerning HR801, re-introduced by Congressional Representative > >>>>> > John > >>>>> > Conyers (D-MI), which would essentially reverse the NIH Open > >>>>> > Access > >>>>> > policy. I have much respect for Representative Conyers, > >>>>> > especially > >>>>> > on his health care policies. Thus, I was greatly disturbed upon > >>>>> > hearing of this development. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I wanted to know why Conyers would do such a thing, and began > >>>>> > investigating the money trail on Conyers' campaign > contributions > >>>>> > (thanks Alex for the idea!). What I came upon sank my heart. > >>>>> > According to Open Secrets > >>>>> > > >>>>> > <http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00004029 > >, > >>>>> > Conyers' third single largest campaign contributor in 2008 was > >>>>> > the > >>>>> > American Intellectual Property Law Association > >>>>> > <http://www.aipla.org/> (AIPLA), whose "Key Bills of the 111th > >>>>> > Congress > >>>>> > > >>>>> > < > http://www.aipla.org/Content/NavigationMenu/IP_Issues_and_Advocacy/Legislation1/111th_Congress/Key_Bills_of_the_111th/Key_Bills_of_the_111th.htm > >" > >>>>> > include HR801. Surprised? Shouldn't be. Money talks, and big > >>>>> > money > >>>>> > talks that much louder. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I joined the AIPLA last year as a student and was very unimpressed > >>>>> > they > >>>>> > are on the ultra protectionist side of IP, I choose not to renew > the > >>>>> > membership this year. They have been recruiting students and > >>>>> > professor > >>>>> > rather heavily over the last few years I am curious if we have any > >>>>> > active members of the AIPLA that are willing to speak out. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -Brian Rowe > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Elizabeth Stark < > [email protected] > >>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I think we can do something kind of big here. Barbie in a > Blender > >>>>> > style.. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Gavin Baker > >>>>> > <[email protected] > >>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Yes, please get involved :) > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Need any help, holla at me! > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Elizabeth Stark wrote: > >>>>> > > There's a great opportunity for us to get involved in > >>>>> > activism > >>>>> > against > >>>>> > > this bill, especially involving chapters. Ideas for how > we > >>>>> > can > >>>>> > best do > >>>>> > > this? > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > I know Change Congress is looking to target it as well. > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Rob Myers > >>>>> > <[email protected] > >>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/16/scientific-publisher.html > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > "Steve sez, "Currently, the National Institutes of > >>>>> > Health > >>>>> > require > >>>>> > > NIH-funded research to be published in open-access > >>>>> > repositories. In a > >>>>> > > cop to for-profit science publishers, Congressional > >>>>> > Representative > >>>>> > > John Conyers (D-MI) has re-introduced a bill (HR801) > >>>>> > that > >>>>> > essentially > >>>>> > > would negate the NIH policy concerning depositing > >>>>> > research > >>>>> > in OA > >>>>> > > repositories. The bill goes further than prohibiting > >>>>> > open > >>>>> > access > >>>>> > > requirements, however, as the bill also prohibits > >>>>> > government agencies > >>>>> > > from obtaining a license to publicly distribute, > >>>>> > perform, > >>>>> > or display > >>>>> > > such work by, for example, placing it on the > Internet, > >>>>> > and > >>>>> > would > >>>>> > > repeal the longstanding 'federal purpose' doctrine, > >>>>> > under > >>>>> > which all > >>>>> > > federal agencies that fund the creation of a > >>>>> > copyrighted > >>>>> > work reserve > >>>>> > > the 'royalty-free, nonexclusive right to reproduce, > >>>>> > publish, or > >>>>> > > otherwise use the work' for any federal purpose. The > >>>>> > bill > >>>>> > is bad > >>>>> > > news." 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