In Defense of Free Music: A Generational, Ethical High Road Over the
Industry’s Corruption and Exploitation
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A response to Lowery's letter worth reading.


On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Karl Fogel
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Jennifer Baek <[email protected]> writes:
> >Hi, I've attached a screenshot of something I whipped up on
> >Illustrator. What do you think? Some feedback on format would be
> >great. Content, we'll continue to work on together on the piratepad.
> >The content in the screenshot isn't *final*, I just copy and pasted
> >what was in the pirate pad.
> >
> >I created this because it was getting difficult for me to
> >conceptualize how we were going to do in line commentary.
>
> Love that look!
>
> I think in this kind of point-by-point response, there are two ways to
> go...
>
> One way is what you did in the screenshot -- keep the original content
> in the center and put the responses along the sides, using different
> visual styles for the two to keep them distinct.
>
> This keeps the focus on the original content, which has advantages and
> disadvantages.  It says "Our purpose here is to annotate and deconstruct
> what this person said", but it also means that the structure and major
> themes of the response are still controlled by the original piece.  It
> also means readers are re-exposed to all of the original letter, even
> the parts that don't need rebuttal or that are repetitive with other
> parts that we may be rebutting elsewhere.
>
> The alternative is to write an essay that says the things you think need
> saying, including selected quotes from the original letter inline.  In
> other words, something like this:
>
>   Dear Emily White,
>
>   You've recently been told that you shouldn't share music -- that
>   doing so hurts artists and is unethical.  You were told you should
>   change your behavior, and that you should try to get your friends to
>   change theirs.
>
>   We think you got bad advice.  You're not hurting artists, you're
>   helping them.  Although David Lowery was sincere and really believes
>   what he wrote in his <link>letter to you</link>, we'd like to explain
>   why he's wrong both about who the copyright system serves, and about
>   what the Free Culture movement stands for.
>
>         <insert (indented, italicized) first excerpt from Lowery's
>         letter here.  It doesn't have to be the first thing he
>         wrote in the letter -- it's just the first point you want
>         to address.  In other words, the excerpts from his letter
>         don't have to reproduce the entire letter; we're here to
>         serve the Free Culture movement's purposes, not Lowery's.
>         Obviously we shouldn't use misrepresentative excerpts or
>         otherwise be unfair, but there is no moral obligation to
>         reproduce every repetitive thing in his letter either.  I
>         don't even think the excerpts necessarily have to appear in
>         the same order in which they appeared in his letter, as
>         long as we don't change the order of his argument or his
>         logic in such a way as to misrepresent him.>
>
>   Here is the response to the above excerpt.
>
>         <and here is another excerpt from his letter>
>
>   Here is the response to that second excerpt.
>
>   And here is maybe a new paragraph that is not necessarily a response
>   to any particular part of Lowery's letter, but is just making some
>   point that you want to make, or summing up what you've said so far.
>
>         <maybe here's more Lowery>
>
>   More response.
>
> Etc, etc -- you get the idea.
>
> Again, I think either way can work.  I just wanted to offer an
> alternative structure for consideration, since you seemed to be asking
> for thoughts on structure before thoughts on content.
>
> Big kudos to you for taking this great discussion we're all having here
> and turning it into something useful to the public!
>
> Best,
> -Karl
>
> >On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Jennifer Baek <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/travis-morrison/hey-dude-from-cracker-
> >    im_b_1610557.html via Katie Baxter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Aditi Rajaram
> >    <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >    Stoked that we're responding (opened up the PiratePad and looking
> >        through now). The original piece made me so mad I had to stop
> >        in the middle a couple a times before I could go back and
> >        finish reading it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >        On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Jennifer Baek
> >        <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >        I agree with you... It might be worth it to address that. He's
> >            definitely trying to appeal to ones emotions and morality.
> >            I got a hint of religious rhetoric. Paying penance?!
> >
> >            I won't be around a computer for a greater part of the day
> >            tomorrow since I'm going on a field trip with my
> >            internship tomorrow.
> >
> >            Everyone, please continue to mark up the piratepad:
> >            http://piratepad.net/KY6e7xIdkm
> >
> >            After we've brainstormed, we'll work on polishing our
> >            response!
> >
> >            Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >            On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Alex Kozak
> >            <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >                            Sorry for taking this a bit off track
> >                (continue scheming response etc) but something in the
> >                response really upsets me, which is the subtle
> >                implication that culture abundance and loving music
> >                contributed to his friend's suicide. Not cool.
> >
> >                These guys just seem completely out of touch with our
> >                generation.
> >
> >
> >
> >                On Jun 19, 2012 8:57 PM, "Alex Leavitt"
> >                <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >                    Hit a NYT
> >                    blog:
> http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/19/npr-
> >
>  intern-gets-an-earful-after-blogging-about-11000-songs-
> >                    almost-none-paid-for/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                    On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Karl Fogel
> >                    <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >                    [Unifying two threads here by adding QCO discuss@
> >                        list as a recipient --
> >                        we'd been discussing this over there too.]
> >
> >                        So, Nina Paley just pointed out that the
> >                        wonderful (and fast) Mike
> >                        Masnick of Techdirt has posted this quick
> >                        response piece:
> >
> >
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120619/11493419390/david-
> >                        lowery-wants-pony.shtml
> >
> >                        I really like Mike's response, but there's an
> >                        important thing it doesn't
> >                        do, which is turn the tables on David Lowery's
> >                        morality argument.
> >
> >                        Masnick basically says "This is the new
> >                        reality: get over it, and find a
> >                        way to work in it, because you have no choice.
> >                         Asking for anything else
> >                        is asking for a pony."  (Okay, I'm
> >                        paraphrasing!)
> >
> >                        That's a useful message, but it's still
> >                        essentially an amoral -- by
> >                        which I do *not* mean "immoral" -- argument.
> >                         Yet I don't see any reason
> >                        to cede the moral high ground to Lowery.  He's
> >                        the one arguing against
> >                        people sharing culture, and in favor of
> >                        monopoly and control, after all.
> >
> >                        So despite Masnick's excellent job, I think
> >                        there's a big opening for a
> >                        deeper and explicitly anti-monopoly rebuttal
> >                        here, and that it will get
> >                        some traction.
> >
> >                        I'm sending this partly for Jennifer Baek's
> >                        benefit, since she's working
> >                        on a rebuttal (along with anyone else who
> >                        wants to, of course).  Jen,
> >                        Masnick's piece is worth reading, and maybe
> >                        referring to, but I
> >                        certainly don't think it says everything that
> >                        could be said.
> >
> >                        Also, just to second what Alex Leavitt said:
> >                        "Wow! I'm so glad to see
> >                        the amazing discussion this has generated."
> >                         Absolutely!  David may have
> >                        written a bad essay, but he's still generating
> >                        something good...
> >
> >                        Best,
> >                        -K
> >
> >
> >
> >                        Nate Otto <[email protected]> writes:
> >                        >I'll take a look at the etherpad later, but
> >                        I'd caution against doing
> >                        >a whole point-by-point rebuttal of the
> >                        letter. I think a concise
> >                        >response focusing on just one or two main
> >                        points would ultimately be
> >                        >more effective. (But I'm no longer a student,
> >                        and I can't say that I
> >                        >speak for SFC, only as an independent
> >                        supporter of free culture)
> >                        >
> >                        >The points that stood out for me as asking
> >                        for response are first: the
> >                        >main thrust that individuals have a
> >                        responsibility to pay the
> >                        >structures currently set up to support
> >                        artists and petition the
> >                        >government in support of the "property
> >                        rights" framing that in turn
> >                        >supports these entrenched players and to not
> >                        question whether this all
> >                        >makes sense in the context of the Internet,
> >                        which is the best media
> >                        >distribution system the world has ever seen.
> >                        >
> >                        >The second is:
> >                        >"What the corporate backed Free Culture
> >                        movement is asking us to do is
> >                        >analogous to changing our morality and
> >                        principles to allow the
> >                        >equivalent of looting."
> >                        >
> >                        >Changing the metaphors underlying "culture as
> >                        property" is a possible
> >                        >outcome of the Free Culture movement. We are
> >                        having a conversation
> >                        >about how to have a free culture where
> >                        artists can live happily.
> >                        >Entrenched players may join in, but they have
> >                        to realize that
> >                        >"looting" is a word that comes out of their
> >                        framing of the issue; we
> >                        >may not accept that framing as what is needed
> >                        to support a 21st C
> >                        >(conected) culture.
> >                        >
> >                        >-Nate
> >                        >
> >
> >
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