You might also be interested in "The Politics of the Libre Commons," in which the authors "chart the connections between this movement and the early Free Software and Open Source movements and question whether underlying assumptions that are ignored or de–politicized are a threat to the very free culture that the project purports to save."
http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/1403/1321 On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Kẏra <k...@freeculture.org> wrote: > I'm really not talking about free vs open. I promise. I clearly am on > RMS's side when it comes to openwashing, but that's not at all what I'm > trying to get at. > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Alex Leavitt <alexleav...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> The practical use behind the rhetorical strategy in using the term 'free' >> in 'free culture' is an extension from Richard Stallman's emphasis on using >> 'free software' over 'open-source software.' >> >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html >> >> If you haven't read this article, I think this is probably *the* starting >> point for this conversation. >> >> Unless you want to really dive into Lessig's argumentation of using the >> term 'free': http://www.free-culture.cc/freeculture.pdf Check p. 30: >> "Free cultures are cultures that leave a great deal open for others >> to build upon; unfree, or permission, cultures leave much less. Ours was >> a free culture. It is becoming much less so." >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Patrick Anderson <agnuc...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Kẏra wrote: >>> > How does that actually address any of the issues in the original post? >>> >>> Oh, I thought you were looking for a new term to replace "free culture". >>> >>> Freedom isn't Free, and ass you say, the word Free sounds too chaotic >>> and without rules. >>> >>> To me, the word Freedom sounds like level-headed liberation brought >>> about by a set of carefully defined constraints such as those enforced >>> by the GNU GPL. >>> >>> For example I think "Freedom Software" is better than "Free Software" >>> because the word "Freedom" makes the recipient unsure of the >>> implications instead of assuming the program is Freeware or malware, >>> or if your are not careful, it may even sound like the offering is an >>> illegal distribution of proprietary software (hey buddy, you want some >>> *Free* software?). >>> >>> So I think the word Free is tainted beyond use, whereas the word >>> Freedom can probably be useful. >>> >>> >>> > the proposed term refers to a broader culture >>> > of freedom without defining the actual freedom. >>> >>> Ok, here is my definition of "actual freedom": >>> >>> Freedom requires users control the Source of all the products they use. >>> >>> For example, the milk-drinker must have control (probably >>> co-ownership) in the dairy where that milk comes from. >>> >>> Doing this for all goods and services will allow us to finally have >>> control of our food supply, our cell-phone networks, our ISPs, our >>> healthcare, our housing, etc. >>> >>> So User Freedom requires Source Control. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Patrick Anderson >>> http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@freeculture.org >>> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@freeculture.org >> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >> >> > > > -- > Board of Directors, Students for Free Culture: www.freeculture.org > > Blog: http://thesilentnumber.me - StatusNet Microblog: > http://identi.ca/kxra > Email: k...@freeculture.org - SMS: +1.617.340.3661 > Jabber/XMPP: k...@riseup.net - IRC: kxra @freenode @oftc @indymedia > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@freeculture.org > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss > >
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