I'm reviving this very old thread with some new materials that raises some important issues i hope the FCF can address for the free culture movement:
What, then, is the substantive difference between ‘remix’ culture and either fan fiction or hip hop? What do the remix/free movements gain from presenting their values and practices in an ahistorical and revolutionary fashion? What could the movement gain by locating it in a larger historical context? -- http://satifice.com/octofice/2013/07/17/free-culture-fanfiction-and-publishing-elitism/ We can see that, especially in the rhetoric of the F/OSS community, that there is an explicit resistance proprietary and capitalist ways of organizing labour, and yet very little discussion about resisting implicit or subtle sites of power. And the result is not only a gender gap, but a race gap, ability gap, class gap, etc. More starkly, we can see how an explicit disavowel of one type of capitalist organization of labour simply does nothing to address the fundamental issues of the distribution of wealth. Depressingly, this means that the F/OSS community and the way that it embodies and practices its values of ‘open’ and ‘free’ serves not as a resistance to the dominate (and oppressive) forms of organization and institutions, but as simply a different, perhaps more subtle, instantiation of context in which it was created. -- http://satifice.com/octofice/2013/07/02/tyranny-of-open/ The thing about symbols and other cultural elements often targetted for appropriation, is that absolutely *no one* is ever asserting that these symbols or elements are owned by any specific individual. Indeed, this is encoded in the term ‘cultural appropriation’ itself. What is actually at issue here is how we understand ‘free culture’ in an inter-cultural context. Or, in other words, how we can understand the priciples of ‘free culture’ as applied to what we might call ‘collective property’? -- http://satifice.com/octofice/2013/10/24/free-cultural-appropriation/ On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Alex Leavitt <alexleav...@gmail.com> wrote: > You might also be interested in "The Politics of the Libre Commons," in > which the authors "chart the connections between this movement and the > early Free Software and Open Source movements and question whether > underlying assumptions that are ignored or de–politicized are a threat to > the very free culture that the project purports to save." > > > http://firstmonday.org/htbin/cgiwrap/bin/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/1403/1321 > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Kẏra <k...@freeculture.org> wrote: > >> I'm really not talking about free vs open. I promise. I clearly am on >> RMS's side when it comes to openwashing, but that's not at all what I'm >> trying to get at. >> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Alex Leavitt <alexleav...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> The practical use behind the rhetorical strategy in using the term >>> 'free' in 'free culture' is an extension from Richard Stallman's emphasis >>> on using 'free software' over 'open-source software.' >>> >>> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html >>> >>> If you haven't read this article, I think this is probably *the* starting >>> point for this conversation. >>> >>> Unless you want to really dive into Lessig's argumentation of using the >>> term 'free': http://www.free-culture.cc/freeculture.pdf Check p. 30: >>> "Free cultures are cultures that leave a great deal open for others >>> to build upon; unfree, or permission, cultures leave much less. Ours was >>> a free culture. It is becoming much less so." >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Patrick Anderson >>> <agnuc...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Kẏra wrote: >>>> > How does that actually address any of the issues in the original post? >>>> >>>> Oh, I thought you were looking for a new term to replace "free culture". >>>> >>>> Freedom isn't Free, and ass you say, the word Free sounds too chaotic >>>> and without rules. >>>> >>>> To me, the word Freedom sounds like level-headed liberation brought >>>> about by a set of carefully defined constraints such as those enforced >>>> by the GNU GPL. >>>> >>>> For example I think "Freedom Software" is better than "Free Software" >>>> because the word "Freedom" makes the recipient unsure of the >>>> implications instead of assuming the program is Freeware or malware, >>>> or if your are not careful, it may even sound like the offering is an >>>> illegal distribution of proprietary software (hey buddy, you want some >>>> *Free* software?). >>>> >>>> So I think the word Free is tainted beyond use, whereas the word >>>> Freedom can probably be useful. >>>> >>>> >>>> > the proposed term refers to a broader culture >>>> > of freedom without defining the actual freedom. >>>> >>>> Ok, here is my definition of "actual freedom": >>>> >>>> Freedom requires users control the Source of all the products they use. >>>> >>>> For example, the milk-drinker must have control (probably >>>> co-ownership) in the dairy where that milk comes from. >>>> >>>> Doing this for all goods and services will allow us to finally have >>>> control of our food supply, our cell-phone networks, our ISPs, our >>>> healthcare, our housing, etc. >>>> >>>> So User Freedom requires Source Control. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Patrick Anderson >>>> http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@freeculture.org >>>> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@freeculture.org >>> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Board of Directors, Students for Free Culture: www.freeculture.org >> >> Blog: http://thesilentnumber.me - StatusNet Microblog: >> http://identi.ca/kxra >> Email: k...@freeculture.org - SMS: +1.617.340.3661 >> Jabber/XMPP: k...@riseup.net - IRC: kxra @freenode @oftc @indymedia >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@freeculture.org >> http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@freeculture.org > http://lists.freeculture.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > FAQ: http://wiki.freeculture.org/Fc-discuss > > -- Board of Directors, Free Culture Foundation: www.freeculture.org Campaigns Organizer, Free Software Foundation: www.fsf.org Blog: http://kxra.info - StatusNet Microblog: http://identi.ca/kxra Email: k...@freeculture.org - SMS: +1.617.340.3661 Jabber/XMPP: k...@riseup.net - IRC: kxra @freenode @oftc @indymedia
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