I think knowing what "this" is and being able to use it appropriately is pretty 
critical.

I think never having given a flying *** about self and having no idea what it 
is, is totally natural and not indicative of anything.

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Nathan Young
Cisco.com->Interface Development
A: ncy1717
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake McGraw
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:45 PM
> To: jQuery Discussion.
> Subject: Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?
> 
> A quick google and a look at Javascript The Definitive Guide:
> 
> "self" is also a property of the global (window) object, one 
> which points back
> at the window object such that (window.self === window) 
> should be true (it
> isn't in Internet Explorer, but it is in Gecko-based 
> browsers, Netscape 4.78
> and Opera 7.53). I'm unsure why people use "self". It 
> requires JavaScript to
> step through the object in the DOM you actually want to 
> retrieve a property
> which points back at the object you wanted in the first 
> place. I guess it's
> useful for self-documenting code (pun not intended). I don't 
> know, I never use
> it, when I want the default window object, I use "window".
> 
> "this" always refers to the current object. Outside of any 
> function, "this"
> would refer to the global (window) object such that (this === 
> window) returns
> true. Within functions, "this" can refer to a number of 
> things, but it is
> always the "current object". Example:
> 
> So, self is property which allows an object (Window) to reference
> itself, this refers to the object which sits on the top of the current
> scope resolution stack.
> 
> btw, self is a part of Client Side Javascript, not the core language.
> 
> I maybe reading it out of context, but I don't think knowing this
> makes or breaks one's status as a professional Javascript developer.
> 
> - jake
> 
> 
> On 3/13/07, Jörn Zaefferer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > the infamous ppk wrote in his blog:
> >
> > "I've learnt one other trick for distinguishing newbies and 
> pros: ask
> > them the difference between |this| and |self|. Usually 
> people who just
> > claim to be excellent scripters don't know the answer, 
> while real pros do."
> >
> > So obviously I am not an excellent scripter, because I 
> don't have any
> > idea on the difference between those two. And I prefer 
> discussing iton
> > this instead of crawling through the ECMA spec.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > --
> > Jörn Zaefferer
> >
> > http://bassistance.de
> >
> >
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