Kent Borg wrote on 2026-01-16 19:44:
On 1/16/26 7:05 PM, Rich Pieri wrote:
(my opinions about adopting systemd aside)
Always nice to see someone badmouthing systemd, thanks.
Gonna disagree.
What's your solution for services management? Upstart?
Why did both Canonical and RedHat develop a services management system?
What problem(s) were they trying to solve? (RedHat included Upstart
briefly before everyone settled on systemd.)
I know it's "not a very fashionable idea" to push back on "systemd
sucks", but it's 2026, systemd is everywhere, and it works just fine.
In fact, it's nice to have a small, easy-to-read unit file to describe
"don't start Apache if nginx is running" or "when mailman3 comes up,
bring up mailman3-web, and when mailman3 shuts down, stop mailman3-web too".
A unit file that works across distributions so developers don't have to
maintain a bunch of inscrutable scripts with tweaks for each OS.
Then there's the resource constraints that can be easily enforced via
unit files.
Give a reason for "badmouthing" systemd other than "old man shakes fist
at sky" please.
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