Hi, Thanks all for sharing your experiences.
@Arvind, good to know that paring went good enough. I assume all of them were in the same main "room" and typing along with the instructor, right? I was discarding this option as considering it too risky, buy I may reconsider based on this. @Sichong, mmm time will likely be a constrain, yes, specially as I expect to move slower working online, so demo mode could finally be a must. @Zac, learners working independently over my repo is in the plan, but in addition to the pair-collaboration part. Being realistic I don't think I'll get there, I usually don't, even in in person workshops. It may be an option, specially as with it you are on the safer side vs pairing people. Thanks again, I'll think about this and report back how it goes. Cheers, Iñigo On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:00:55 +0000 Zac Painter <z...@stanford.edu> wrote: > Iñigo, > > When I have done the Git lesson online, I have cut out the larger > group pairing like that. Instead, I have the learners do requests and > collaboration off my repo, and I talk about the ways in which > collaboration in larger projects happens. This gets around some of > the problems of things breaking for some users, and it allows me to > interact with the class more in the virtual setting. > > Of course, I have never done this in the full 2-day bootcamp, but > rather stand-alone workshops. I think that breakout rooms, as some > others on this thread have described, would suffice so long as you > are able to in and out of them to monitor everyone. I find that many > people struggle with this part of the workshop because something > always seems to break, so monitoring it in real time is more > difficult in a virtual setting. > > Cheers, > Zac > > Zachary W. Painter, MSLS, NREMT > Engineering Librarian, Stanford University > z...@stanford.edu | 1.650.885.1793 > https://orcid.org/0000-0002-4588-7843 > > > ________________________________ > From: Sichong Peng via discuss <discuss@lists.carpentries.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 16:32 > To: discuss <discuss@lists.carpentries.org> > Subject: Re: [cp-discuss] Advices on instructing Git lesson online > > Hi Inigo, > > I just taught an SWC workshop online and while I didn't teach the git > portion personally, I did observe how my co-instructor handled it. He > basically did a demo as you described. We were planning to send > participants to breakout rooms to have them work as a group (one as > owner and the others as collaborators) but we had to trim that part > due to time constraints. > > If you use zoom it let's you randomly assign learners to breakout > rooms (up to 50 I think). I think 2-3 people per room would work > best. I'm not sure about other virtual meeting platforms but I'd > imagine similar feature exists. > > You may also wish to plan more generously time-wise as the online > format seems to always take more time, as is the case with all online > workshops I've been a part of. > > Hope this helps! > > Best, > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 2:11 PM Arvind Narayanaswamy > <arvind.narayanasw...@columbia.edu<mailto:arvind.narayanasw...@columbia.edu>> > wrote: Hi Inigo, I've not taught Git but I have helped my two of my > colleagues. In both cases, we managed to show a demo in which the > instructor and I (or another helper) participated. Then, we paired > the students according to the participant list as it appeared on my > zoom screen. We took 5 minutes to read out the names of students in > order as it appeared to me. Two students A and B who appear > consecutively and are both present are paired off. We had about 15 > pairs (some participants did not want to be paired). The final > student was accommodated into another group to make it a group of 3. > > It seemed to go off well (enough)! > > Good luck > Arvind > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:59 PM Inigo Aldazabal Mensa > <inigo_aldaza...@ehu.eus> wrote: Hi all, > > Next week I'll be instructing my first online workshop, specifically > the Git lesson. > > I have instructed this lesson quite a few times in person, and > starting from the collaboration part I do learners work in pairs, > with one being the repository "owner", and the other the > "collaborator", swapping roles, creating and resolving conflicts, > etc. This usually takes the second half of the lesson. > > Now the questions is, how do you deal with working in owner - > collaborator pairs in an online workshop? You don't work in pairs > and just demo this part? Do you pair your learners somehow? 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