Jeff, I'm not suggesting one definition is generally better than the other. The philosophical and the implementation views compliment each other. O'Reilly succinctly described what the new technologies were enabling, at a high level. I do believe the perspective put forward by Spivak helps us look at the layer down from O'Reilly to understand what was, is and might be. And, in the context of this thread, help us decide objectively if a flash site can be described as having 2.0-like functionality or just brochureware in shinny 2.0 styling. I feel its very much the latter.
I used the word alternate, as in perspective, not opposing view. I could have phrased that better. Now, you said "All the rest is bells and whistles, much ado about nothing" I think its a little more chicken and egg than that. You cant have "data and who owns and controls, or gives the best access to, a class of data." without the underlying technology to enable that. And until we see what is made of the underlying nuts and bolts, we wont be able to predict what the next burst in innovation will be. Nova's model helped him predict where things are heading: http://www.twine.com/ and I believe he's on the money. "Emerging technologies on the Web don't evolve in a straight line" The Spivak graph plots complexity against time, similar to Moores Law and in line with the general continuous evolution of technology. Of course nothing evolves in a straight line. "A better mental model might be based on atomic models in chemistry %u2014 the periodic table" And the periodic table was used to predict elements that did not occur naturally. I accept the graph is overly simplistic but reject that its fundamentally flawed in capturing what is 2.0 and what might be 3.0, 4.0 etc I've yet to see a better infograph of what leads to singularity. take care, p . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=24104 ________________________________________________________________ *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/ ________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help