Hi Damon, On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Damon Dimmick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I get what you are saying, but I disagree on the idea of google > fulfilling all the needs of facebook. Sure, it can, if all your contacts > maintain a website and you fancy searching for their info, one at a > time, every time you are interested. Maybe my refer to google leads the confusing, here for google example, i set to say it makes life better. > > I'm not saying that facebook is "game changing," but it does allow for > passive keeping in touch, which is exactly what most people want out of > their non-central relationships. When it comes to second order friends, > we all generally want to keep abreast of their lives and be able to jump > in when something interests us, otherwise stay clear without any negatives. > > Facebook allows the kind of active/passive dichotomy that is perfect for > people who don't have the energy to keep in constant active contact with > their networks. You don't have to take part, you don't have to be > engaged, but you can see what's going on, and if you like it or it > interests you, you can reach out. > > As far as I know, facebook is almost the ideal scenario for this kind of > user goal, and I don't know if there are other technologies that meet > that need as effectively or efficiently. There are other sites that do > similar things, and they are all contenders, but currently facebook > seems the best suited this particular kind of interaction. > > And I would argue that this need for passive contact is actually > something that many of us, maybe a majority of us, intrinsically have. > There are certainly other technologies that dance well around this idea > (twitter, general IM, your basic web log) but facebook's advantage is > bifurcated: it requires little effort to broadcast, and even less effort > to receive. My mother would probably never twitter, but facebook she > understands. My nephew, who's all lightning-fast thumbs and text skill, > still uses it too, because it's easier than sending a message to each of > his 187 friends.
Ah, it maybe depends on the culture/area difference. For myself, I have facebook account and MySpace account, but use it very few, and also found this from my friends. And IM serves the relationship keeper well for this case. [But I agree Facebook/MySpace/Linkden do well on the relationship keeping.] > > I would therefore argue that calling something "obsolete" because other > choices are available isn't sufficient. I mean, the skateboard is > another choice for getting around a city, but does that make car's > obsolete? For true obsolescence to occur, there must be a better way to > accomplish the goal that the newly-obsolete technology addresses, and > this better way must make the original choice more costly (in a games > theory sense of utility) than the new technology in so far as satisfying > that user goal. Agree fully. > > It's certainly possible to keep up with your network via google > searches, twitters, emails, IMs etc. Or, you could just log onto > Facebook and see what's going on with most of your contacts in one fell > swoop by scanning a single page. The energy required to satisfy the goal > of keeping up with my extended network is far lower when I use facebook > than when I use a constellation of other technologies. If and when that > changes, facebook may well become obsolete, but so far it seems to be > the better solution. > > However, if we're just talking about "trends" and such, well, then sure, > Facebook may be moving towards obsolescence (if you believe it has > crested or jumped the shark). But still, that implies something better > coming along. > > Just my thoughts. > > -Damon > > Jarod Tang wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Damon Dimmick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Genuine question: People are saying that facebook is obsolete.... Why? >>> What supplanted it? >>> >> It's not a issue on replacement, but more on if it make people's >> everyday better, for e.g., by google, you could easily searching for >> the information you want, by amazon, you want to get the object you >> interested. By facebook, you want to have friends, yes, keep >> relationships ( for what?), And it's good to have keep friendship and >> share experience, and that's all. The sites does good job on this, and >> it's not enough to say it's a game changing stuff. >> >> What'll be next phenomenon? >> It definitely should be some one that make people's life better, like >> google dose. Like a better traveling experience, a better city life, a >> life long better education , etc. And safe food service ( for e.g. , >> taking into account current food safety issue from China and Japan) , >> a better energy friendly living system, etc. The chances are open. >> >> Cheers, >> -- Jarod >> >>> jeff lippiatt wrote: >>> >>>> Weighing in. >>>> Facebook became obsolete a while ago. Soon to become the relic of >>>> Yahoo, aka Geocities. >>>> All of these sites will eventually fail unless they address something >>>> of value. Currently they are all riding the plummet of social >>>> entertainment. They have mainly ignored their core audiences: Myspace >>>> was music, Facebook was college students and grad students. Both have >>>> annoying advertisements that have no context...just battering people >>>> over the head to make advertising money on which is steadily >>>> declining...How long do you really need to stay on either site to >>>> catch up? Not long, because all of the new changes you can get a >>>> snapshot of everything now in under 5 minutes. That leaves no >>>> incentive to stay on the site. All the widgets and mini-apps that bog >>>> down both sites are 99% pointless because people just add and delete >>>> them sometimes within hours or minutes. >>>> In summation, you can't please everyone any of the time. They >>>> abandoned their niches and have been sliding downhill since. Social >>>> entertainment is not robust enough to keep users online and engaged. >>>> I use both Myspace and Facebook, but am not pleased with either. I >>>> use them mostly for keeping up with friends and birthdays and posting >>>> pictures of my some what ridiculous but fun cooking antics. >>>> >>>> >>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>>> Posted from the new ixda.org >>>> http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33019 >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________________ >>>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! >>>> To post to this list ....... [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Unsubscribe ................ http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe >>>> List Guidelines ............ http://www.ixda.org/guidelines >>>> List Help .................. http://www.ixda.org/help >>>> >>>> >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! >>> To post to this list ....... 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