David,

I think the career path that Dan outlined loosely defines the next
steps. Unfortunately I find that internally at my company I need to do
a lot of lobbying to be invited at a more strategic level. I'm also a
bit self-conscious about being able to speak the business vernacular
and clearly articulate the ux plan mapped to that business
understanding.

For me I feel like unless I want to stay in an executional role I'll
have to go back to school (for self-confidence and to get the business
acumen). I went to the Pratt orientation earlier this month for Design
Management and it sounds like a great program. That's where i'm
putting my eggs, at least for now :)

Adrian

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:37 PM, David Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Thanks for your reply.  This is very interesting, and I'm surprised there
> hasn't been more discussion around this topic.  It would be interesting to
> know what the IxDA distribution looked like as far as level of skills.
>  Unfortunately being a fairly new discipline (in the eyes of business), it's
> hard to understand what the next steps are.  That's why I'm looking to
> people who have made that transition, maybe I can gleam some helpful nuggets
> of information on how I can proceed.
>
> Love to hear from others in that "after senior ixder" role.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Dan Saffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 11:10 AM, David Shaw wrote:
>>
>>  Currently I am a senior
>>> IxDer and starting to plot out my career path.  Would love to hear from
>>> those who were in my shoes before that made the transition to the next
>>> step.
>>>
>>
>> The hard part is at the top. It's a fairly straightforward path from junior
>> designer --> designer --> sr. designer. After that, the career paths start
>> moving in different directions: towards management (creative director type
>> roles) or some kind of super specialist (lead designer). Or, you can go
>> start your own firm and do a bit of both.
>>
>> How the transitions happens vary pretty widely depending on the company.
>> Larger agencies and companies usually have fairly defined career paths,
>> while smaller ones often don't. The simple answer is often to be already
>> doing the next step in your career path. If your company doesn't recognize
>> that and promote you, probably somewhere else will (all things being equal
>> and stable).
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan Saffer
>> Principal, Kicker Studio
>> http://www.kickerstudio.com
>> http://www.odannyboy.com
>>
>>
>>
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