On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:20 PM, dave malouf wrote:

If the Mint out of box, purchasing, installing, etc. experience is
anything like what I went through with Fever, i can't believe that
it is lauded in any way what so ever. It was the convoluted and
scary.

I'm not going to defend the installation process. My experience of installing software for web servers has always been all of them are annoying at some level. That said, I didn't find Fever extraordinarily better or worse than installing something like WordPress. I tend to dislike them all.

The nature of the beast with most stuff you have to install on a server is like installations from 1988. It just hasn't caught up yet, imho.

a) what is the " " sign for, and I don't get it.

You're text or graphic got lost in translation. Which symbol are you referring to?

b) What? it sends me to the web site? I'm so used to reading almost
all the posts in GReader and that by itself makes Fever, more like
hypothermia.

If you hit "0" or click the hover bar, it opens the excerpts. I think excerpts are by default, but I forget. If not, check your Prefs to make sure you are grabbing excerpts.

3) From a pure HCI perspective, there are few interactions
communicated in the design itself. I'm not talking about the few
pop-up support messages that come up. I'm talking about the entire
UI. I look at the design and I seriously do not know what to do.

I agree. This is an issue. However, I find Shaun comes from the same school of thought I do. Let people spend 10 minutes learning something, and make the design work for repeated use. As it stands, once you do understand what is going on, the product runs great. The best part are the keyboard interactions from my pov. They do a ton of heavy lifting with very little. My biggest concern at this stage is how well the feed logic works to populate my Hot list. I'm giving it a week or two to see how it works out once it's got more data to run from.

So all this begs me to actually say that I really disagree with
Andrei about this experience. I think that what Andrei describes in
his 1st post is ALL true. And is all good. but it is 1/2 the IxD
story. it is the part that most of DON'T get which is why it is
important to look at, but we still need something that is the whole
story (regardless of whether it is one person or a team).

I think you'll need to sit with it for a week or so before drawing that conclusion.

Some aspects that will be hard to give up from GReader:
1) gmail integration: the ability to send email from w/in the app is
a huge thing for me.
2) sharing and comments. (more the sharing). This is a widget in my
blog and I know few people who rely on my ability to share like this.
3) Firefox plugin Better Google Reader which primarily allows me to
view full web page INSIDE GReader.

None of those items are big deals to me personally. Outside of that, I also think once you get a feel for the app, try it out on the iPhone. And then see how you feel about it as well. It still has a few bugs, but I know Shaun is working diligently on them.

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Andrei Herasimchuk

Chief Design Officer, Involution Studios
innovating the digital world

e. and...@involutionstudios.com
c. +1 408 306 6422

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