On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Harvey Rothenberg <[email protected]>wrote:
> Mr. Evan Pettrey, > > My needs are simple to me. I would like to have a single backup program to > be able to either make an image Backup and/or a file-by-file backup. > > This way I can protect myself with an image that can be restored to a good > known working state or that I could pick-off needed files from the other > backup. It could be a needed Data file or a corrupted DLL file ( which > would be relatively easier than trying to pull the DLL from a windows > install media, in my opinion ). This is the simple needs that I wish to > cover at this time. > > Yes, I would probably be moving some of the windows systems to a virtual > environment later either on a Workstation or Server type system or really I > may have need for both types of systems. The only trouble with moving to > Virtual (now starting to be called Cloud) is that these systems usually the > software to manage this type of function is quite costly. > > You've got a few terms crossed. Virtualization and "The Cloud" are two separate things. They compliment each other, but they are not similar. "The Cloud" basically means working with external services. VIrtualization allows you to run multiple operating systems on a single piece of hardware. There are many free (or inexpensive) virtualization products being offered. qeum, virtualbox, vmware server, vmware workstation, and kvm. I am sure that I missed a few. But don't think you need a huge infrastructure outlay to get this set up. You may need just a standard workstation. But it depends on the workload and the applications that are run on the systems. > I was thinking that maybe it would be better to center in on a Linux/Unix > solution like using "dd" and "tar" from a bootable image or from the > selected operating system. I understand by now there are a couple of rescue > type ISOs that would be a consideration. I also have read that there might > also be some versions of these two programs available for the windows > operating system. At least the resulting backups would be recognizable by > most POSIX based utilities and thus provide a more flexible solution, in my > current thinking. > > Are you willing to power off the system each and everytime you want to backup these systems? This seems very labor intensive and prone to error. Remember: it's not hard to mix up `dd` commands ... this would wipe your disk. I really only use `dd` when I have too, and I am very (very!) careful when executing this command. > I hope the added information helps your understand of what I am trying to > accomplish. What do you think of my review of a possible choice ? > > Regards, > Harvey > > > "Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson > afterwards." -- Unknown > > --- On *Thu, 10/13/11, Evan Pettrey <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Evan Pettrey <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [lopsa-discuss] Need Suggestions - For Backing Up Older > Versions and Current Op Sys's ... > To: "Harvey Rothenberg" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 5:39 PM > > > Harvey, > > I'm not clear on what you're asking for here. Can you please provide some > more specific details in regards to what data you'd like backed up on these > systems? Are you attempting to backup user data, system images, etc? > > Perhaps I'm just being dense as it is the end of the work day but I think > some more information is needed with regards to what your objective is. > > Best regards, > Evan Pettrey > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Harvey Rothenberg > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > > To the Members, > > I have several Windows based systems still operating and I will be > introducing Virtual based systems and also Linux based systems into my needs > for protecting them. The Windows systems versions are Win2k SP4, Windows > 3.1.1 w/Dos 6.2, Windows XP SP3, Vista SP1, and Win7 no SP yet. > > I will be adding VMWare 4.5, 7.1, and 8 to the mix on one or more of the > systems. I will also be using one or more of the Linux distributions > primarily as a Host on one or two system. Currently the Windows Win2k, Dos > 6.2/Win 3.1.1, and Win 7 systems are independent free-standing systems. > > I was considering a Publisher like Acronis because they have product that > can run on the mentioned operating systems, but if you are a private user > they want you on their current released product only, pretty much. > > Their current product, like most publishers do not handle the older > versions of any operating system, but if you had their product back in the > day. Their newest and most current software will work with the created > backup sets from the older version of their products. > > Then there is the aspect of buying their product that covers Linux/Unix. > You would have to buy their commercial product if you wanted to stay with > this single publisher. This price is not on par to a private customer costs > (i.e. $ 50.00 it is more like $ 500.00). > > So I am asking my fellow members if you can make any reasonable suggestions > for my current need. If you need more info., just ask. > > I will say, Thank You ! now for anyone's assistance in my concern. > > Sincerely, > > Harvey Rothenberg > > Systems Integrator/Security Specialist > > "Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson > afterwards." -- Unknown > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] <http://mc/[email protected]> > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > >
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