Is anyone aware that Snowden made any attempts to report his concerns
appropriately before choosing the course he did?  I haven't heard any
mention that he reported to the IG or Congress, both of which he could have
legally and ethically done.  Is one not supposed to exhaust other resources
before taking a step of this nature?  I would think that would be
especially important in a case like this, when one's actions affect the
well-being of an entire nation.  We elect the members of Congress who
permit, fund, and oversee these programs and we can vote them out of office
and vote someone in who will eliminate the programs.  And, as people have
pointed out in this thread, this sort of scenario could be imagined and the
privacy issues can be brought up (and have been and will be again) without
an action like this.  Doing it the legal way and accepting that your fellow
citizens may not agree with you is slower and, well, Democratic.  Unless
there is something I don't know, Snowden seems to have gone off rather
half-cocked.  Sorry, but you have to fight bureaucracy the right way first
to qualify as a whistleblower imo.  I don't think Snowden has helped the
causes of people concerned about privacy or system administrators.


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Derek Balling <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Jun 11, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Josh Smift <[email protected]> wrote:
> > How much do you (and Tom) feel that way because you agree with Snowden's
> > views on what "the civic good" is?
> >
> > Would you feel the same way (that "whistleblowers need all the help they
> > can get") if his leak had been motivated by something that you could see
> > why someone else might find virtuous, but which you personally find
> > repugnant, with effects that he (and many many other people) saw as good,
> > but which you personally saw as disastrous?
>
> Tough for me to say because I can't come up with an appropriate example.
> I'm probably one of the most anti-authoritarian people in LOPSA, bar none,
> so I'm hard pressed to come up with something that could be of the
> "whistleblower" mentality but which I would be averse to.
>
> D
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