Thanks Craig for your notes, I was unable to attend LISA13 entirely this
year.

I do not have a lot to add but I'd like to simply raise my voice as one
that would be interested in seeing this continue to develop and I'll
contribute in any way I can. I especially like the idea of resources like
the Ops School and OpsReportCard being publicly available in easy to digest
formats. I'm currently a mentor to two LOPSA members who are working in
help desk or SMB IT positions and looking for career advancement.

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 08:10:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Craig Cook <[email protected]>
To: Lopsa Discuss <[email protected]>
Subject: [lopsa-discuss] Notes from LISA13 BoF - Systems
        Administration -        From Occupation to Professional
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Systems Administration - From Occupation to Professional
Will Dennis, LOPSA Member
Thursday, November 7, 9:00 ? 10:00 p.m., Hoover
A discussion on what professionalization (the act of a person
becoming professional) would look like for the field of Systems
Administration (*Ops, etc) and what steps LOPSA/LISA could take to
support this

Random notes from the meeting:


(Overall, I got the impression that creating a "profession" for System
Administration is a good thing.? Exactly how that is done is still open to
debate.? There seemed to be agreement that a "Body of Knowledge" should be
created.? Also debatable how that can be accomplished)


Just because you are a LOPSA member does not mean you would want to hire
them.? It means that person has a minimum level of knowledge.

(Context: Just because someone is a certified electrician does not mean
they would be a great person to work with.? They should know and be able to
work to "code" though)

Certification is different from professionalism

We need a "body of knowledge"

We do not want to restrict entry to the profession.

Some mentioned we should form a profession before it imposed on us.

Would be nice if new people to the profession could learn from someone
else, like an apprenticeship program.? (LOPSA has created a mentorship
program)


Do not try and do everything at once. (ie. Do not try and create the "body
of knowledge" in a few months)

look at swebok.org - third edition

opsschool.org is a body of knowledge in progress

kids identify themselves as developers - they do not know that "system
administration" is a term. (marketing issue)


(to create a body of knowledge) start with a small group of people - start
with 5 items

(review Tom Limoncelli site - opsreportcard.com)


If I have mis-represented anything, please correct me ;)


Craig
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