Sounds less like "a problem" and more like "they were running the
queries through themselves to do filtering on good-versus-bad videos".

My $0.02.

On 12/9/2015 1:19 PM, Ski Kacoroski wrote:
> And the winner is Ross.  After more debugging, we tracked the problem
> down to the iboss box and this morning they fessed up to having an
> intermittent problem (does not seem that intermittent to me) that they
> are working to fix.
>
> Thanks to everyone for their ideas.
>
> cheers,
>
> ski
>
> On 12/08/2015 02:32 PM, Ross West wrote:
>>
>> I forgot to reply to the list, but a quick google shows that is the IP
>> for the iBoss (http://www.iboss.com/) content filtering system.
>>
>> Nothing too sinister going on (and should be expected for a school based
>> internet system).
>>
>> R.
>>
>> On 08/12/15 05:29 PM, Shane Harvey wrote:
>>> Could this be the case?  Can you try +trace +additional ?This was from
>>> -> http://serverfault.com/questions/482913/is-dig-trace-always-accurate
>>>
>>> |"+trace| cheated and consulted the local resolver to obtain the IP
>>> address of the next hop nameserver instead of consulting the glue.
>>> Sneaky!
>>>
>>> This is usually "good enough" and won't cause a problem for most
>>> people.
>>> Unfortunately, there are edge cases. If for whatever reason your
>>> upstream DNS cache is providing the wrong answer for the nameserver,
>>> this model breaks down entirely.
>>>
>>> Real world example:
>>>
>>>   * domain expires
>>>   * glue is repointed at registrar redirection nameservers
>>>   * bogus IPs are cached for ns1 and ns2.yourdomain.com
>>>     <http://ns2.yourdomain.com>
>>>   * domain is renewed with restored glue
>>>   * any caches with the bogus nameserver IPs continue to send people to
>>>     a website that says the domain is for sale
>>>
>>> In the above case, |+trace| will suggest that the domain owner's own
>>> nameservers are the source of the problem, and you're one call away
>>> from
>>> incorrectly telling a customer that their servers are misconfigured.
>>> Whether it's something you can (or are willing to) do something
>>> about is
>>> another story, but it's important to have the right information.
>>>
>>> |dig +trace| is a great tool, but like any tool, you need to know what
>>> it does and doesn't do, and how to troubleshoot the issue manually when
>>> it proves insufficient."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ski Kacoroski <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     One more bit of information.  When I wireshark the queries, any
>>>     query to youtube.com <http://youtube.com> ends with:
>>>
>>>     Standard query response .... A 208.70.74.21 [ETHERNET FRAME CHECK
>>>     SEQUENCE INCORRECT]
>>>
>>>     Queries to other locations work correctly and do not have that
>>> problem.
>>>
>>>     cheers,
>>>
>>>     ski
>>>
>>>     On 12/08/2015 01:36 PM, Shane Harvey wrote:
>>>
>>>         try doing a dig @localDNSserver youtube.com
>>> <http://youtube.com>
>>>         <http://youtube.com> and see
>>>         what is happening. Do you have any content filtering that
>>> may be
>>>         blocking it? I used to see a lot of schools getting blocked by
>>>         google
>>>         because of traffic routing through a content
>>> filter/firewal/NAT and
>>>         google would block that ip by the amount of traffic from one
>>> ip.
>>>
>>>         On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Ski Kacoroski
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>              Hi,
>>>
>>>              This morning everything went south with youtube.com
>>>         <http://youtube.com>
>>>              <http://youtube.com> for my school district in Bothell,
>>>         WA.  When I
>>>              am on the school district network I get:
>>>
>>>              ski@elle:~$ dig +trace youtube.com <http://youtube.com>
>>>         <http://youtube.com>
>>>
>>>              ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-11ubuntu1-Ubuntu <<>> +trace youtube.com
>>>         <http://youtube.com>
>>>              <http://youtube.com>
>>>              ;; global options: +cmd
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         j.root-servers.net <http://j.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://j.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         c.root-servers.net <http://c.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://c.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         h.root-servers.net <http://h.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://h.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         f.root-servers.net <http://f.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://f.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         m.root-servers.net <http://m.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://m.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         b.root-servers.net <http://b.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://b.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         g.root-servers.net <http://g.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://g.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         d.root-servers.net <http://d.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://d.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         k.root-servers.net <http://k.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://k.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         l.root-servers.net <http://l.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://l.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         e.root-servers.net <http://e.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://e.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         a.root-servers.net <http://a.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://a.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       436781  IN      NS
>>>         i.root-servers.net <http://i.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://i.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       515218  IN      RRSIG   NS 8 0
>>> 518400
>>>              20151218170000 20151208160000 62530 .
>>>              QgF9b0kXkgGRVGVcwqm6g8EwvtFqG+vO4kx1lQfGijbaZcLkwkEIOoEh
>>>              8wPc6IiVyI6c7ua0SaL9i7A7Q0zy//fQJLb+Ji7xFtD4n0uSTzm0Xyd/
>>>              iainDAwnXRzwoFxR2j7dLRu7N0dsLpYKF9s9VF+Ky2nCcCnZqQlLEFDs
>>> L+A=
>>>              ;; Received 913 bytes from 127.0.1.1#53(127.0.1.1) in
>>> 74 ms
>>>
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            0       IN      A
>>>                208.70.74.21
>>>              ;; Received 45 bytes from
>>>         192.203.230.10#53(e.root-servers.net
>>> <http://e.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://e.root-servers.net>) in 1 ms
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>              Notice that there is no recursion or name servers.  This
>>>         does not
>>>              look like a standard DNS transaction.  Not only that, but
>>>              208.70.74.21 is owned by Multacom Corp.  Any ideas why
>>> this
>>>         is going
>>>              on?  Is my DNS being hijacked somehow.  This only happens
>>> for
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com> -
>>>         apple.com <http://apple.com> <http://apple.com>,
>>>         www.google.com <http://www.google.com> <http://www.google.com>,
>>>         etc. all work as expected.
>>>
>>>              For comparison, when I use my verizon phone hotspot I get:
>>>
>>>              ski@elle:~$ dig +trace youtube.com <http://youtube.com>
>>>         <http://youtube.com>
>>>
>>>              ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-11ubuntu1-Ubuntu <<>> +trace youtube.com
>>>         <http://youtube.com>
>>>              <http://youtube.com>
>>>              ;; global options: +cmd
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         b.root-servers.net <http://b.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://b.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         d.root-servers.net <http://d.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://d.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         f.root-servers.net <http://f.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://f.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         c.root-servers.net <http://c.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://c.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         m.root-servers.net <http://m.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://m.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         g.root-servers.net <http://g.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://g.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         e.root-servers.net <http://e.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://e.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         i.root-servers.net <http://i.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://i.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         l.root-servers.net <http://l.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://l.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         k.root-servers.net <http://k.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://k.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         h.root-servers.net <http://h.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://h.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         j.root-servers.net <http://j.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://j.root-servers.net>.
>>>              .                       38588   IN      NS
>>>         a.root-servers.net <http://a.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://a.root-servers.net>.
>>>              ;; Received 239 bytes from 127.0.1.1#53(127.0.1.1) in
>>> 16499 ms
>>>
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         m.gtld-servers.net <http://m.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://m.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         l.gtld-servers.net <http://l.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://l.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         k.gtld-servers.net <http://k.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://k.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         j.gtld-servers.net <http://j.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://j.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         i.gtld-servers.net <http://i.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://i.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         h.gtld-servers.net <http://h.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://h.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         g.gtld-servers.net <http://g.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://g.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         f.gtld-servers.net <http://f.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://f.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         e.gtld-servers.net <http://e.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://e.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         d.gtld-servers.net <http://d.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://d.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         c.gtld-servers.net <http://c.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://c.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         b.gtld-servers.net <http://b.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://b.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    172800  IN      NS
>>>         a.gtld-servers.net <http://a.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://a.gtld-servers.net>.
>>>              com.                    86400   IN      DS      30909 8 2
>>>              E2D3C916F6DEEAC73294E8268FB5885044A833FC5459588F4A9184CF
>>>         C41A5766
>>>              com.                    86400   IN      RRSIG   DS 8 1
>>> 86400
>>>              20151218170000 20151208160000 62530 .
>>>              CqO6/JQRMrFAIlB7I6oguyun+/InWoLWNJh0pPCNOJ00sOjxz+X9EZT0
>>>              jy0Dpn2nYAdI6F7adUOnGG5jHsiz7oQmHg9ncyMUoVkeMQV+p0JL4Wdf
>>>              kLqufz6NueraOLgs8FII8GP968odDLDbFbpD3wWM9tEh+NqZhaS5PiMT
>>> YJQ=
>>>              ;; Received 735 bytes from
>>> 198.41.0.4#53(a.root-servers.net
>>>         <http://a.root-servers.net>
>>>              <http://a.root-servers.net>) in 3031 ms
>>>
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            172800  IN      NS
>>>         ns2.google.com <http://ns2.google.com> <http://ns2.google.com>.
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            172800  IN      NS
>>>         ns1.google.com <http://ns1.google.com> <http://ns1.google.com>.
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            172800  IN      NS
>>>         ns3.google.com <http://ns3.google.com> <http://ns3.google.com>.
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            172800  IN      NS
>>>         ns4.google.com <http://ns4.google.com> <http://ns4.google.com>.
>>>              CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1
>>> 1 0 -
>>>              CK0Q1GIN43N1ARRC9OSM6QPQR81H5M9A NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY
>>> NSEC3PARAM
>>>              CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3
>>>         8 2 86400
>>>              20151214055737 20151207044737 51797 com.
>>>              MrwJSdJZKLjHepqim6qM+oa1W+Ya6OzG4/yHhG3DRcjGGYUVzfTqqKsA
>>>              GOHkyBZ2eUKiBhcjKEdf+uvwpx0pAuaV0v1u3LaML52ILvd8Jh6Hxx2r
>>>              OqHPZ5O2QuZMnnFZuXYYYRWDnExxtPPhh94jHf7vHojNIiv/zDanYb5E
>>> VSo=
>>>              H5AFKDOBP05VCGM6958STOKNIEDLV3OR.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1
>>> 1 0 -
>>>              H5AMN1SCRI4J99BRA7K4B8C018PJIVPN NS DS RRSIG
>>>              H5AFKDOBP05VCGM6958STOKNIEDLV3OR.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3
>>>         8 2 86400
>>>              20151214055802 20151207044802 51797 com.
>>>              oMRyyXEiWOQVDPLjm2ggBzF3CzI2/HO4PGJhO4nFueMD9gamuiENz+gA
>>>              ew/kdtnbztKucRSCMgtG2+uhQployz/WBRf1angLfWtIqeJR2008qayS
>>>              O0I4lHtchB6QGPT1UQf/qH9Bt9u5VlD7Naw/luQxBk9O4W+HiFf2wGsi
>>> fKA=
>>>              ;; Received 668 bytes from
>>>         192.31.80.30#53(d.gtld-servers.net <http://d.gtld-servers.net>
>>>              <http://d.gtld-servers.net>) in 2402 ms
>>>
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.25
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.44
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.59
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.54
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.55
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.20
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.35
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.49
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.29
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.45
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.39
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.24
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.30
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.34
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.50
>>>         youtube.com <http://youtube.com> <http://youtube.com>.
>>>            300     IN      A
>>>                209.118.208.40
>>>              ;; Received 285 bytes from 216.239.38.10#53
>>>         <tel:216.239.38.10%2353>
>>>              <tel:216.239.38.10%2353>(ns4.google.com
>>>         <http://ns4.google.com> <http://ns4.google.com>) in
>>>              415 ms
>>>
>>>              cheers,
>>>
>>>              ski
>>>
>>>              --
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>>>                 connected to the entire universe"            John Muir
>>>
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>>>              <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>,
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