I count 12 projects on the slightly twitchy osgeo.org home page. I would agree that osgeo projects should be given a strong preference if not an automatic slot. With 12 workshops, it's hard to see why each project doesn't get a slot.

        Allan

On Mar 29, 2007, at 11:15, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:

Hi Paul,
Hard not to be frustrated if I look at the closed ranking/review process, the final list that includes non-OSGEO workshops and the fact that no consultation has taken place with workshop submitters on possible alternatives. Just the blunt email that closes the door.
Jeroen

On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:

Jeroen,

I appreciate your frustration, and I know it is shared by many others, as only 12 of the 34 3-hour workshop submissions could be hosted. The criteria the workshop committee used in their evaluation are here:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/ FOSS4G2007_Workshops#Criteria_used_by_the_workshop_committee_to_revie w_workshop_submissions

All the committee members ranked the submissions on those criteria and the rankings were averaged. Two workshops in the top 12 that were topic duplicates were removed and the next-lowest-ranked non- duplicates were moved up. It appears that being on the committee is no guarantee of satisfaction with the final result. The average of a bunch of lists people want is a list that no one is 100% happy with.

Paul

On 28-Mar-07, at 10:36 PM, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:

Dear people,

Thank you for your information. I have to say I find that pretty frustrating and annoying knowing that GeoNetwork opensource is one of the incubator projects of OSGEO, the number of OSGEO projects is (still) limited and FOSS4G is the OSGEO conference.

Participating with the project in OSGEO has multiple reasons, one of them being that it provides opportunities to work on synergies and work on marketing the OSGEO software stack. Now how does the intent of OSGEOs mission fit with refusing a (single) workshop on one of its projects. Maybe I miss something, but I'd assumed there was at least some kind of a relation!?

Looking forward to some good feedback and discussion on this, also on the OSGEO mailing list as I consider that discussion very relevant in the further development of outreach strategies for ourselves and the OSGEO foundation through conferences.

Core question:

"Should OSGEO projects have guaranteed workshop and presentation space for at least one session?"

Regards,
Jeroen

On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:58 PM, FOSS4G 2007 wrote:

Dear Jeroen Ticheler,

We regret to inform you that we will not be able to accept your Half Day workshop, "Using the GeoNetwork opensource Spatial Data Catalog", for the FOSS4G 2007 program. We had a very large number of submissions this year, and
 have been able to accept less than half of them
.

We hope you will consider bringing some of your ideas to the conference in the form of a presentation. The Call for Presentations is currently open, and
there is room for 120 presentations at the conference this year
.

http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations

Yours,

The FOSS4G 2007 Conference Committee



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