Sorry Anthony, OSGeo edu folks - my bad. That email from Suchith was held up in the Mailman system and it was posted last week. I just approved the post without noticing that it was mentioning the telemeeting that took place a few days ago.
In short, there IS NOT a telemeeting tomorrow. Charlie Schweik On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Suchith Anand < suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Anthony,**** > > ** ** > > It was good to meet you briefly at ICC 2013 in Dresden last week and i > hope i was able to provide basic information on ELOGeo and ICA-OSGeo Lab > education initiatives. **** > > ** ** > > It will be very helpful, if you can share your ideas and experiences to > OSGeo Edu community so we can think of ideas for MOOC program entirely > using OSGeo Software for the future. We also have an rapidly expanding > ICA-OSGeo Lab Network. Details at > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Edu_current_initiatives (we are now > working to setup a new portal) and we hope you join the lab network.**** > > ** ** > > We have monthly telemeetings which are open to all interested and you are > welcome to join. For example, our next telemeeting is tomorrow at 18:00 > UTC. Agenda at > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/ICA_OSGeo_Lab_Network_2013-09-05 **** > > ** ** > > We look forward to work with you on the education initiatives.**** > > ** ** > > Best wishes,**** > > ** ** > > Suchith**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: > discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Shorter > *Sent:* 29 June 2013 23:23 > *To:* Anthony C Robinson > *Cc:* 'OSGeo Discussions'; edu_disc...@lists.osgeo.org > *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Maps and the Geospatial Revolution from > Jul 17th 2013 at Coursera**** > > ** ** > > Hello Anthony and others in the OSGeo Education space. > > Anthony, > It seems your email is not getting through to our email lists, which is > probably because you are not subscribed. I suggest doing so here: > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss > > All, > See Anthony's response below. > This email thread was started on the OSGeo Discuss list, but please > continue on the edu-discuss list. In responding to this email, please drop > the discuss@lists.osgeo.org in response (and subscribe to the edu-discuss > if you wish to follow along). > > Anthony, > There have been quite a bit of discussion on our edu-discuss list about > MOOCs, and so your course and what you have learned so far is very relevant > to all of us. > > The part of MOOC development which personally interests me (extending from > my involvement in OSGeo-Live) is how to develop a process for maintaining > and extending MOOC courses. In particular, from within the 30,000 students > attending your course, there is likely to be many with excellent ideas for > improvements. How do you capture such ideas, and at the same time retain > the single focus and simplicity core to good educational material? How do > you ensure that your material is updated whenever software is updated? How > can your training material be retasked for a different audience (eg for > primary school students)? Then once you have multiple courses all based > upon the same core material, how do you ensure they all get updated > together? > > These are questions we have working on when generating documentation for > OSGeo-Live, which I've described here: > > http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordinating.html > > With regards to some of your other points, I'll be interested to hear > responses from the Educators within the OSGeo community. (I'm better > described as a Software Developer, Technical Writer and Coordinator). > > On 30/06/13 03:20, ANTHONY C ROBINSON wrote:**** > > Hi Cameron,**** > > **** > > I really appreciate you touching base with me about this and sharing your > discussions on my MOOC. **** > > **** > > I hadn’t yet seen the OSGeo-Live site or packages – this is great to know > about and I will change my instructions in the class to point to these > resources instead of the piece-by-piece approach I’d been taking with > respect to highlighting various open source geo-efforts. While students in > the class will use ArcGIS Online for 4 of the 5 lab assignments, for the > final lab assignment I have created a tiered-approach with multiple options > to hopefully encourage some of the most eager/tech savvy students to try > out platforms like QGIS, GRASS, etc… **** > > **** > > I’m aware of some OS community angst about my selection of AGOL for doing > most of the labs in the course. I’ve worked for 10 years in the GeoVISTA > Center, a GIScience research center that has been very active in developing > open source systems for geovisualization and geocomputation. In addition, I > lead Online Geospatial Education programs at Penn State, which to my > knowledge represent the only Geography programs that provide Open > Educational Resources for nearly all of its online courses ( > open.ems.psu.edu). So the clear value and innovation associated with all > things open is not lost on me, and I recognize that there are some > important considerations to be had with having MOOC students use a > commercial platform. I won’t answer all of them here ( and I would never > claim to be an infallible decision maker), but it may be helpful to > understand some of the motivation for this course and its design:**** > > **** > > **· **The class is designed for people who may use maps but have > never made their own. It is not designed to teach GIS pros/academics > something new. It’s designed to encourage new geospatial people to emerge; > to rethink maps and what they can do.**** > > **· **It is not designed to train people to use GIS software. The > focus is on understanding the most basic things about Geography and > Mapping. It functions much like a 1 credit zero-level class that we might > teach here on campus.**** > > **· **A MOOC on Coursera typically reaches at least 30,000 people > in its first run (mine will be no exception) and includes 60-75% of its > students from outside the United States.**** > > **· **I chose a mapping platform that my Grandpa could > realistically use (he’s signed up for the class) in the first week of the > class, and that would not require anything to be downloaded.**** > > **· **Esri is providing technical support in the course forums to > ensure that nothing blows up and that problems are very quickly remedied. > No money is associated at all with this relationship, and I approached them > first because my former boss, David DiBiase, directs their education team > and I knew he would understand what I did and did not want in terms of a > partnership. I know they get a bad rap quite often (frequently for good > reason) but I have to say that every part of this cooperation has been on > my terms and excellent.**** > > **** > > There are absolutely great ways to re-imagine this type of course with > purely open source stuff driving lab assignments. Nothing would make me > happier than to see the OsGeo community develop a second version of this > class with different ways to complete the labs. I think that would be > awesome. If I can be useful toward that end, please let me know.**** > > **** > > I’m very interested in any advice folks can give me about the best ways to > share the content I’ve developed for this course. Coursera doesn’t make it > easy for me to export the whole thing into a reusable package. We use > Drupal here in our PSU programs to provide content, so my thought is to try > and convert everything to that CMS and provide it in that manner. Others > have suggested using GitHub, but I want to avoid simply uploading a pile of > PDFs and Videos and assuming that that would be “good enough.” Everything > in the class will be offered under a CC non-commercial license at any rate > – like our other open courseware at PSU.**** > > **** > > I also can’t imagine that there would only ever be one MOOC on Mapping. > That’s crazy. There ought to be just as many as we see now for various > CompSci and Engineering topics. I’m very excited to share everything I > learn from this experience, comparing it to how we develop other online > courses (we offer ~25 here and I have 5 years of teaching geospatial stuff > online), and considering the meaning of “open” when it comes to such > things. I would agree with many critics that MOOCs themselves are not > necessarily as “open” as they perhaps should be. Most of the big platforms > (Coursera included) are trying to figure out a revenue stream from this > stuff, for example, and as I’ve mentioned they definitely don’t make it > easy to repurpose things elsewhere.**** > > **** > > The class is 99% ready to go and opens on July 17th. I would be very > happy to hear any and all feedback (including, if you think its warranted, > that I am a colossal idiot) once it’s launched. Each week for five weeks a > new lesson will roll out, with video lectures, lots of written/graphical > content, lab assignments, and discussions on things like geospatial > privacy, the impact of social media on mapping, etc… At the bare minimum it > is very exciting to imagine what tens of thousands of people will do when > they make their first maps.**** > > **** > > TL:DR – I’ll definitely point to the live.osgeo resources and making a > MOOC is complicated but I am very eager to share what I learn. :)**** > > **** > > Cheers,**** > > **** > > -Anthony**** > > **** > > **** > > Anthony C. Robinson, PhD**** > > Lead Faculty for Online Geospatial Education, John A. Dutton e-Education > Institute**** > > Assistant Director, GeoVISTA Center**** > > Department of Geography**** > > The Pennsylvania State University**** > > www.personal.psu.edu/acr181/**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Cameron Shorter > [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com<cameron.shor...@gmail.com>] > > *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2013 4:18 PM > *To:* Anthony Robinson > *Cc:* Rick Smith; Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas; OSGeo Discussions; > edu_disc...@lists.osgeo.org > *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Maps and the Geospatial Revolution from > Jul 17th 2013 at Coursera**** > > **** > > Hi Anthony, > As per emails below, you can see that people have been talking about your > "Maps and the Geospatial Revolution" course within the Open Source > Geospatial communities. > > Are you aware of the OSGeo-Live USB/DVD/Virtual Machine? > http://live.osgeo.org > OSGeo-Live provides a distribution of 50 of the best Geospatial Open > Source applications all preinstalled and configured with sample data, ready > for use in courses such as yours. It also includes Project Overviews and > Quickstarts for all these applications: > http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html > > I'm CCing the OSGeo Education email list, which are also doing great > things. In particular, they have been building up a network of Open Source > Geospatial Labs within Universities around the world. > > On 28/06/2013 10:50 PM, Rick Smith wrote:**** > > Myself and two colleagues are currently running a (mini)MOOC on geospatial > technology. We are using QGIS for two of the labs and indiemapper for two > of the labs We chose QGIS because we wanted to keep the 'Open' in MOOC > truly open. indiemapper is not open source, but it is free to use and > there is no push for signing up for accounts or paying for services, so we > think maybe it is little 'o' open :) **** > > **** > > Anyway, if interested, view > http://catalyst-academy.org/course/geospatial-tech-for-stemx-learning/ > and you can sign up for free at: * > https://canvas.instructure.com/enroll/KK6JML<https://webmail.tamucc.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=AC1eOI7a4kWyYoJN_gLUyI_cUUyQR9AI-WUGtL9ubS9qdamfDQFC_PqgbX6eM1v-Oy6o2IM0nd8.&URL=https%3a%2f%2fcanvas.instructure.com%2fenroll%2fKK6JML> > ***** > > **** > > Cheers,**** > > -Rick**** > > http://gisc.tamucc.edu**** > > **** > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas < > js...@osgeo.org> wrote:**** > > On 28 June 2013 01:45, Mateusz Loskot <mate...@loskot.net> wrote: > > Folks, > > > > I thought there may be interest here: > > > > https://www.coursera.org/course/maps > > > > -- > > Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net**** > > Thanks for sharing > > It's funny that this course relies only on a privative online mapping > platform, with the massive amount of free software and data resources > for learning available out there. 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