Hey Peter, so what would be your suggestions to make the process more of the 4 bullet points you mentioned?
Best regards, Bart On 30 Jun 2014, at 09:24, Peter Baumann <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > Cameron & all, > > a lot of serious, involved work is going on on this thread; however, some > core issues which I tried to phrase, but Steven (Feldman) expressed much > crisper, still remain unaddressed by the currently voted proposal: > Inclusiveness > Democracy > Growth > Openness > The proposal as it stands is in high danger of establishing a self-sustaining > oligarchy. > > I am concerned that a body that claims to have international impact (through > project branding) high responsibility must be exercised in terms of > transparency, openness, and democratic principles. > > -Peter > > > > On 06/29/2014 10:26 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: >> OSGeo board, >> In the interests of making a decision such that Jorge Salinas (our CRO) can >> move forward, I propose the following process be followed for voting new >> charter members in 2014: >> >> 1. Charter member to nominate potential new charter member(s) (as before). >> >> 2. Charter members then vote (in/out) nominated charter members. This will >> be different to prior years, as we previously voted in a fixed number of >> members for a larger selection pool. (eg vote in 20 people from a list of >> 30). For this year, I propose we have a "Yes/No" vote. Ie, if we have a list >> of 30 candidates, we will ask all charter members to vote Yes or No against >> each candidate. Each candidate with greater than 50% of YES votes will be >> included as new charter members. >> >> 3. Charter members would be guided to select candidates who fit the >> "Positive Attributes for Charter Members" as defined here: >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes >> >> 4. There will be no limit to the number of new charter members who can be >> selected. This will require an update of >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process >> >> 5. Note: This vote is being put to the board and not to charter members as I >> don't wish to complicate this decision by adding a 2nd (positive) idea for >> change. We can address getting charter members to vote on issues as a >> separate motion. >> >> Board members, can you please all vote on above: >> >> +1 Cameron >> >> >> >> On 25/06/2014 9:31 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote: >>> Following the community discussion, I further researched OSGeo's foundation >>> documents, (in retrospect I should have done this earlier). >>> >>> Of particular relevance to current discussion is our ByLaws: >>> >>> http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html >>> Section 7.1. Admission of [Charter] Members. An initial group of up to >>> forty-five (45) persons shall be admitted as the initial [charter] members >>> of the corporation upon the affirmative vote of the Board of Directors of >>> the corporation. Thereafter, to be eligible for [charter] membership, a >>> person must be nominated by an existing [charter] member of the corporation >>> pursuant to a written document in such form as shall be adopted by the >>> Board of Directors from time to time. The nomination must be included in a >>> notice to the [charter] members at least ten (10) days in advance of the >>> meeting at which the [charter] members will vote on the applicant’s >>> admission. Proposed [charter] members shall be admitted upon the >>> affirmative vote of the members of the corporation. >>> >>> This section implies that the proposal below of automatically accepting >>> "Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders" is unconstitutional, as charter >>> members need to be voted into the role by existing charter members. >>> >>> It also implies that while a separate paid membership category could be >>> created, paid members would still need to be voted into a charter member >>> role by existing charter members. >>> >>> The ByLaws don't mention limiting the number of new charter members. This >>> criteria seems to have been introduced as a Membership Process by the 26th >>> Board meeting: >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process >>> The number of new members will be between 10% and one third of the existing >>> charter membership count as decided by the board. >>> >>> Such a statement created by the board, could be updated by the board, and >>> as such the board could agree to accept an unlimited number of new charter >>> members. >>> >>> So I'm now thinking that our election process can be simplified to: >>> >>> 1. Charter member to nominate potential new charter member(s) >>> 2. Charter members then vote (in/out) against all nominated charter members >>> A suitable criteria for determining whether a nominee qualifies is listed >>> here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes >>> 4. Nominees with a majority of votes are included as new Charter Members >>> >>> On 15/06/2014 9:52 am, Cameron Shorter wrote: >>>> Within 2 weeks we intend to start our annual process for selecting new >>>> OSGeo charter members. >>>> >>>> In previous years the Charter Member selection process has been a little >>>> contentious. We typically receive numerous nominations from high caliber >>>> members of our community, and insufficient positions to accept them all. >>>> This typically results in unnecessary disappointment and dissent. >>>> >>>> In response, the OSGeo board has agreed to trial tweaking the voting >>>> process. The aim is to automatically accept recognised OSGeo community >>>> leaders, while continuing with our existing process which attracts the >>>> many valuable community members who contribute in other ways. Community >>>> comments are encouraged, and will be considered over the next week. >>>> >>>> Design guidelines: >>>> >>>> * We want a process which is simple to understand and implement. >>>> * We want a process which encourages recognised OSGeo community leaders to >>>> become OSGeo charter members, while continuing to accept members from the >>>> many other valuable OSGeo roles. >>>> * We want a process which is difficult to abuse. >>>> * For the first iteration, we should err on being more selective in our >>>> criteria, with potential widening of selection criteria in future years. >>>> >>>> Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders >>>> >>>> OSGeo aims to provide OSGeo Charter Membership to all recognised OSGeo >>>> community leaders who are nominated. Hopefully, sufficient positions are >>>> available. If there are more candidates than available, then membership >>>> will be allocated to the first to be nominated. Remaining nominees will be >>>> automatically offered to go through the standard voting process. >>>> Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders are defined as people who have been >>>> voted into a position of authority within official OSGeo projects and >>>> committees, where the voting community includes at least 3 OSGeo charter >>>> members. >>>> >>>> Acceptable roles are currently limited to: >>>> * Project Steering Committee member of a Graduated OSGeo Project >>>> * Chair of Official Local Chapter >>>> * Chair of an OSGeo committee >>>> >>>> The application process for recognised OSGeo Community Leaders is the same >>>> as for other nominees. >>>> >>>> Full text of our processes are at: >>>> * http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process_2014 >>>> * http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2014 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cameron Shorter, >>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager >>>> LISAsoft >>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, >>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 >>>> >>>> P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 >>> >>> -- >>> Cameron Shorter, >>> Software and Data Solutions Manager >>> LISAsoft >>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, >>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 >>> >>> P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 >> >> -- >> Cameron Shorter, >> Software and Data Solutions Manager >> LISAsoft >> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf, >> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009 >> >> P +61 2 9009 5000, W www.lisasoft.com, F +61 2 9009 5099 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > -- > Dr. Peter Baumann > - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen > www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann > mail: p.baum...@jacobs-university.de > tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178 > - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793) > www.rasdaman.com, mail: baum...@rasdaman.com > tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882 > "Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis > dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec > preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." 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