I think the idea would be that an "Incubated Project" would have meet all the basic stars. Obviously the steps that get you to be "incubated" are the same steps that a project have to achieve to get stars. It seems like there are goals to get you to "incubated" and then goals to get you to "graduated". But really it is a continuous process of achievement with milestones along the way that can be easily verified.

Regardless of a name, it seems like having a progressive well defined path than can be managed under by the same program and that minimizes the effort by OSGeo staff in the initial steps would be a good thing for everyone involved. This should not be diluting anyone's efforts as long as it is clear what the stars means in the way of progress and effort of the projects involved.

-Steve W

On 3/5/2015 2:57 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
I'm not sure I like diluting the "Incubated Project" status by turning
it into a star rating in which incubated and non-incubated projects are
mixed.

Incubated projects have taken steps to review their code and adjust
their way to operate to meet several requirements, and just a set of
stars do not relay that properly to the outside world.

That being said, I have no alternative name to offer for the "OSGeo
Labs" pre-incubation status at the moment, so I'll stay out of the debate.

Daniel


On 2015-03-05 5:52 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
Or you’re saying you want to address this with the stars system? So 1
star for existing labs projects for instance?

Jody, as chair of the incubation committee, what’s your take on this?

Best regards,
Bart

On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:51, Bart van den Eijnden <bart...@osgis.nl
<mailto:bart...@osgis.nl>> wrote:

I don’t think you can put projects that have gone through incubation
and the projects that still have to incubate at the same level. But
that’s my opinion only.

Best regards,
Bart

On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:18, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepi...@gmail.com
<mailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Guys,

I think you are trying to find a term for something, I would like to
get rid of. "OSGeo Project" is, what I would like to achieve for both
- today's projects and labs together under one hat.

Or anybody thinks completely different?

Just my $.02
J

čt 5. 3. 2015 v 9:08 odesílatel Suchith Anand
<suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk
<mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> napsal:

    Yes, i think "Incubator Projects" is an appropriate name for this.

    Vaclav - Is this ok for you?

    Suchith
    __________________________________________
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    Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:34 AM
    To: Vaclav Petras
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    Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure

    I agree Community Projects is a confusing name.

    What about incubator projects? That’s the term that Apache uses.

    http://incubator.apache.org <http://incubator.apache.org/>

    Best regards,
    Bart

    On 04 Mar 2015, at 23:25, Vaclav Petras <wenzesl...@gmail.com
    <mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com><mailto:w__enzesl...@gmail.com
    <mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com>>> wrote:



    On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Suchith Anand
    <suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.__uk

<mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand@__nottingham.ac.uk

    <mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
    Thanks Jeff.

    Though we had lots of discussions afterwards and continuing on
    this , we couldnt find any solution till now. So this might be a
    good opportunity  to modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to
    something like "Community Projects" to avoid confusion if that is
    acceptable to Vaclav, Jachym and others. Many thanks.

    Well, I'm not particularly fond of "Community Projects" as a
    name. Even mature FOSS projects are community projects in one way
    or the other. Unfortunately, I don't have other suggestion.

    Vaclav

    Suchith

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    Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure

    (we are approaching 2 full years that this "labs" naming has
been an
    issue and discussed[1])

    Today, knowing how ingrained the term 'lab' is in the GeoForAll
    education network, maybe Jachym is correct that it is a good
time to
    modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community
    Projects".

    [1]

http://lists.osgeo.org/__pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-__June/000134.html


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    -jeff




    On 2015-03-03 3:42 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:
    > Vaclav,
    >
    > Please accept my sincere apologies as it was my mistake that i
    did not think on this  when we started the ICA-OSGeo Labs
    initiative (so many things were going on at that time!).
    >
    > In universities, we generally use the "Labs" term to refer to
    infrastructure/people/__facilities for a particular subject. For
    example Botany Lab, Robotics Lab etc. And we wanted to make sure
    there is a dedicated Open Source Geospatial Lab in universities
    worldwide  (which includes bringing together people from various
    disciplines, infrastructure (the physical space) and facilities
    to make this happen. Also it is easier to make use of the same
    terminology/structure of "Labs" which is widely used in the
    university environment to get academics start the initiative in
    their respective universities (also it is easier for them to
    convince their higher management on a structure that is known to
    them than reinvent a new term for this) .
    >
    > So it will very helpful for us if you can make use of new
    "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or similar) rating system for
    the incubation as then there is no confusion in the future. Many
    thanks for your consideration.
    >
    > Best wishes,
    >
    > Suchith
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    > Cc: OSGeo Discussions; incuba...@lists.osgeo.org

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    <mailto:incuba...@lists.osgeo.org>>
    > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
    >
    > Vašku,
    >
    > just side note: yes, whith the new "Labs" initiative
    "OSGeo-Labs" have to change their name.
    >
    > My idea would rather be to get rid of current OSGeo- "labs" and
    "projects" and start with new "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star
    (or similar) rating system.
    >
    > Than for current OSGeo-Labs "OSGeo-project level 1" would make
    it (or similar)
    >
    > Jachym
    >
    > po 2. 3. 2015 v 18:33 odesílatel Vaclav Petras
    <wenzesl...@gmail.com
    <mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com><mailto:w__enzesl...@gmail.com
    <mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com>><mailto:we__nzesl...@gmail.com
    <mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com><mailto:wenz__esl...@gmail.com
    <mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com>>>> napsal:
    >
    > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky
    <jachym.cepi...@gmail.com

<mailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com><__mailto:jachym.cepicky@gmail.__com

<mailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com>><mailto:jachym.cepicky@__gmail.com
    <mailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com><mailto:jachym.__cepi...@gmail.com
    <mailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
    > former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten in
    past, but you can find more at
    http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__OSGeo_Labs
    <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs>)
    >
    > Hi Jachym,
    >
    > do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name
    "OSGeo Labs" by something else? Now we have also ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo
    Research and Educational laboratories which might be often
    shortened to OSGeo Labs, although I prefer OSGeoRELs for writing.
    The mainling list is ica-osgeo-labs. Put perhaps it is not such
    an issue since the term "Geo for All" (http://www.geoforall.org/)
    is now used more and more (well, the linked website as OSGeo Labs
    in the title element).
    >
    > Thanks for taking this into consideration,
    > Vaclav
    >
    >
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