In my opinion as well there is not a problem, especially since both pictures 
are used within a certain context.
However, I realize I'm looking through a Western-european, liberal cultural 
perspective.

Perhaps someone from for instance the Senegal local OSGeo chapter can comment 
on this from a different cultural point of view?


Regards, 

Gert-Jan


 

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Van: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
Namens Peter Baumann
Verzonden: woensdag 24 juni 2015 13:12
Aan: Jeroen Ticheler; Sanghee Shin
CC: OSGeo Discussions; Conference Dev
Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Code of Conduct in Real Case

+1
-Peter


On 06/24/15 13:01, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
> Dear Sanghee,
>
> In my opinion these are perfectly fine. But could you please remove a couple 
> of other pictures picturing OSGeo developers (male dominated, generalizing 
> men as nerds)?
>
> ;-) Joking apart, I’ve not been in favor of the CoC in the first place. I 
> think it creates more unwanted side effects (like this request to remove art 
> or remove single sex pictures) than that it prevents a person with bad 
> intentions to refrain from them. A plan for the LOC on how to deal with a 
> person acting offensively makes more sense to me. I trust our community 
> members are able to behave as sensitive and sensible people that can 
> auto-regulate issues like this in the same way we collaborate in FOSS 
> projects.
>
> The CoC has been established, not sure if it was adopted by the OSGeo board? 
> If it was, we have to deal with it, so this discussion may be useful indeed. 
> Otherwise, I vote for removing the CoC again and work towards a plan for 
> LOC’s to deal with offensive behavior towards others.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeroen
>
>> On 24 jun. 2015, at 12:22, Sanghee Shin <shs...@gaia3d.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> It’s now time to apply OSGeo CoC(Code of Conduct)[0] in real case. 
>>
>> I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7 Reasons why you 
>> should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is at the main page of FOSS4G 
>> Seoul, as being possibly offensive to women. Specifically to say, slide #6 
>> (nude female in painting) and slide #20 (row of female models) are those 
>> controversial ones. 
>>
>> I refused this asking immediately because I don’t believe my presentation 
>> breach the OSGeo CoC and I don’t agree with that view. 
>>
>> However since this is not the first time asking me to remove those slides 
>> from my presentation and OSGeo now have CoC, I think we’d better discuss 
>> this issue more openly to reach conclusions. 
>>
>> I might be wrong and I’d like to hear other people’s opinion on this from 
>> all around the world. Also I expect Conference Committee’s input as well, 
>> because this is the matter of OSGeo conference. 
>>
>> I’m open to remove/amend/keep those slides after hearing other people’s 
>> opinions on this. Also I believe it’ll be a great chance for OSGeo to learn 
>> how to apply CoC in real cases. 
>>
>> *Sidenote for defending myself:
>> - Slide #6 is the part of Salvador Dali’s well known painting named 
>> “Lincoln in Dalivision”[2]
>> - Slide #20 is the picture of famous girl group, Girls’ Generation(SNSD)[3], 
>> which I believe as symbolic icon of wide spread of Korean culture(K-Culture) 
>> in/around Asia. 
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Sanghee
>>
>> [0]http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct
>> [1]http://2015.foss4g.org
>> [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision
>> [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation
>> ---
>> Sanghee Shin, Chair of FOSS4G 2015 Seoul "Toward Diversity! FOSS4G 
>> Bigbang from Seoul!"
>> http://2015.foss4g.org
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