Hi Charlie, I actually get your point of view, and tend to agree with it.
Best regards, Bart > On 24 Jun 2015, at 13:42, Charles Schweik <cschw...@pubpol.umass.edu> wrote: > > OK, I raised the question of appropriate content to Jeff after I looked at > the FOSS4G website for a reference for a grant proposal I am writing at a > time when I was thinking specifically about diversity recruitment to > GeoForAll. > > By asking Jeff about it offline, I was raising the question that those slides > could turn some women off who are considering attending and I think those > kinds of signals are moving the community the wrong direction, and that > perhaps the author should consider this. I raised this because I have been in > conferences where I've witnessed women being offended by things happening on > stage and I think as a community we want to be sensitive to this since we are > hopeful for more women to become engaged in FOSS4G. > > From my eye going through the slides, I didn't understand (and still don't) > why zoom in on the Dali image needed to be on the slideshow. After a more > careful examination -- that other viewers won't likely do -- I see that the > first slide is an enlargement of part of that painting and then a second > picture of it hanging in some building, under the group heading of 'Seoul is > far away.' I still don't get why the enlargement is needed... but perhaps > that is just me. But I think I am still right -- some women might be turned > off to the conference by that zoom-in. > > Sangee, your explanation of the side of the female models is helpful. But > some people around the world will not understand it or misinterpret its > meaning or why it is there. The 'Culture' heading helps I suppose. So at > least consider having something on those slides explaining to readers what > they represent better than they do currently. > > I'll close by saying, with all due respect to Sanghee and the others in this > community who disagree with me, is that if you are trying to encourage people > to come, and especially if your email footer says 'Towards Diversity' as a > goal of the conference, then the 'Precautionary Principle' might be wise to > follow. If I was doing the advertising to recruit people, I'd be conservative > and wouldn't put up imagery that could turn off potential attendees. > > I'm not advocating any kind of censorship here, and I am not judging whether > a COC is necessary or not. I just was simply raising a concern about > underlying or subtle messages embedded in a 'commercial' being used to > recruit people to our global conference. > > It appears that others disagree with this view. > > Charlie Schweik > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses > <pfer...@osgeo.org <mailto:pfer...@osgeo.org>> wrote: > Hello Sanghee, > > > I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7 Reasons why you > > should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is at the main page of FOSS4G > > Seoul, as being possibly offensive to women. Specifically to say, slide #6 > > (nude female in painting) and slide #20 (row of female models) are those > > controversial ones. > > I'd like to have a little bit more of context to make up my mind > > * Who asked to remove the slides? > > * Is «being possibily offensive to women» the only reason it was given to you? > > On the other hand, obviously you have you own reasons to keep the > slides, but those reasons are not clear in the presentation because it > lacks of... well, it lacks of someone *explaining* what are we seeing. > > May be a less-dependant-on-someone-explaining-presentation is more > suitable for being in the landing page of the Conference. > > But this is just my POV. > > Best regards, > -- > Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses > Valencia (España) > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > <http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> > > > -- > Charlie Schweik > > Associate Professor, University of Massachusetts, Amherst > Dept of Environmental Conservation and Center for Public Policy and > Administration > > Personal website: http://people.umass.edu/cschweik > <http://people.umass.edu/cschweik> > Publications: http://works.bepress.com/charles_schweik/ > <http://works.bepress.com/charles_schweik/> > > Author, Internet Success: A Study of Open Source Software (MIT Press, 2012) - > see http://tinyurl.com/d3e4545 <http://tinyurl.com/d3e4545> > > -------------------------------------------- > Q: Why is this email five sentences or less? > A: http://five.sentenc.es > <http://five.sentenc.es/>_______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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