Dear Massimiliano,
Your opinion matters a great deal. I don't know if you realized: what
you have suggested should be, is pretty much what is the case. Let me
explain to hopefully show this is so.
This is all covered in the FAQ
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/15x1Q3J9OPM95jEkeZhYlU0xB5uO9V9NCOI28g5B_Yqc/edit>
to try to make it clear & quick to read for any who are interested.
The people who put together the bids for Ottawa & Philadelphia did
something positive and bid on hosting FOSS4G in their cities. As part of
their bid, they very clearly stated that OSGeo would have the very best
visibility it has ever had at any FOSS4G ever and a payment on par with
the best ever without any downside risk. In that same sense that FOSS4G
has ever been "hosted" or "organized" or whatever word preferred, by
OSGeo, it would be the same, should those cities be selected.
The way the process works, the bid team select whom they wish to
organize the logistics. And they reached out to LocationTech to hear
what they could offer. Using Ottawa as an example (Dave McIlhagga, chair
for Ottawa, shared all of this in public on the conf-dev list), after
hearing the offer, they decided that they wanted LocationTech to help
them organize the conference. For what it's worth, the other conference
organizing firms who participated in the meeting & also heard what was
being offered, and said openly, clearly, and unmistakably that they felt
choosing LocationTech was the right choice.
Also covered in the FAQ, LocationTech does organize many events beyond
FOSS4G. And, for what it's worth, OSGeo projects & initiatives have
always been welcome at those events. The FAQ also details why there's
interest in FOSS4G. It is my hope that you & others find it all quite
reasonable.
Kind regards,
Andrea
On 15/11/15 20:05, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
Andrea
Nevertheless in my simple and neligible opinion and understanding
OSGeo never wanted to organize any apache event.
If valuable OSGeo members want to host and organize foss4g they can
certainly do in their name or in the name of their local chapters
leaving out LocationTech from the bussines. If LT want to be at the
osgeo event they can send proposal and see if they will be accepted
and then they are always welcome as a sponsor.
If we can see that "osgeo" and LT are "sister" organizations then LT
could also have a free both and be listed as partner along with other
organizations.
Otherwayaround why LT does not organize its own event and then let it
be organized by osgeo?
Regards
Massimiliano
Il 15/Nov/2015 18:48, "Andrea Ross" <andrea.r...@eclipse.org
<mailto:andrea.r...@eclipse.org>> ha scritto:
On 13/11/15 15:42, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
On 13 November 2015 at 14:24, Jeff McKenna
<jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com
<mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>> wrote:
why would you create a separate
foundation with the exact same goals, and then later come
back to the other
foundation saying "no, we love you. Give us the right to
run your event".
Bang!
Jeff, thank you.
Best regards,
Jeff, Mateusz
I have answered this in my other email but I'll repeat here too in
case it's helpful. LocationTech was founded, by many of the same
founders and champions of OSGeo, to fill a gap. It has done a
pretty good job of this. A bunch of what it does, isn't getting
done elsewhere and is needed. None of this was intended to harm
OSGeo in any way, and so far as I can see, hasn't even after 3
years. Feel free to provide any evidence you can offer to the
contrary.
People can and do participate in both OSGeo & LocationTech all the
time. This is a good thing. It absolutely isn't a zero sum
scenario. The mutually reinforce each other rather than detract
from one another.
Apache existed before OSGeo so the same argument could be used
there. While I can see how it plays to emotions, I'm not sure it's
a useful argument.
Andrea
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