Nicolas, Marc,
You both have proposed some excellent ideas on what we should do within the marketing committee, and I think you are also offering to make it happen? Thank you.

I suggest put your ideas into the existing marketing wiki, as linked from here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee

I suggest not being scared to archive old content. Maybe initially move under an "Old Material" heading, with strikeout font, or move to an "archive" wiki page, and eventually remove all together. Some of this old content I've created, and I'll be delighted to see it ruthlessly refreshed and improved in the ways you've suggested.

I expect that once you put draft ideas together with a commitment to move it forward, you will attract positive feedback, and likely attract more volunteers.

I don't think it matters much whether you work under the banner of "marketing committee", "web committee" or "conference committee". The key element is that something gets done. We are volunteers, and we are effective as a "do-ocracy".

So please feel empowered, and start putting your ideas into the wiki. Ask for feedback. It is always easier to discuss an idea after someone has writing a first draft. I'd love to see what you suggest.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 18/03/2016 10:11 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
Thanks for the clarity Marc, there is a very different focus between the two activities.

My two-cents is what we need here - and what Cameron asked for at the start of the thread - is volunteers to put time on the table. OSGeo is a volunteer organization, please in pitch in to make it great.

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On 17 March 2016 at 09:37, Marc VLOEMANS <marcvloema...@gmail.com <mailto:marcvloema...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    All

If this year's marketing communication and budget is reflecting last
    year's, then that's of course a discretionary Board decision.
    To combine WebCom and MarkCom can in that case be a practical solution, for 
now...
However, to combine them more permanently would downgrade the 'Art of Marketing'
    to just 'Promotion'. And would not emply the total toolbox at our disposal 
to grow usage of
    FOSS for GIS. Marketing can be so much more...
In order to really benefit from all marketing has to offer, we need to have established at a minimum level:
    - what are our offerings/products/services and their added end value?
    - what is (are) our target segment audience(s), direct and indirect for the 
above?
    - how do we create interest for it/these (the promotional aspect) per 
target group?
    - how/via which appropriate channels do we distribute that 
offering-product-service (incl OSGeo-Live)
    - which community members/orgs/externals/partners/suppliers are to be 
involved
    - what are available timelines, resources and deliverables?
    And these questions-answers are to be addressed interdependently in a 
single coherent approach.
If such approach is considered too far fetched...then just have a single Com
    for the future, focusing on promotional aspects and media; 'PromCom'.
Not my preferred choice, though ;-) Marc Vloemans


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    2016-03-17 12:45 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl)
    <gert-...@osgeo.nl <mailto:gert-...@osgeo.nl>>:

        Hi all,

        The website is a tool, just as OSGeo-Live is a tool.
        The 2 committees (WebCom and MarkCom) are closely related.

        In  my opinion MarkCom set the goals and probably defines what
        tools are needed to reach these goals.
        WebCom makes sure  one of these tools is up and running.
        That requires different skill, which makes it a valid choice
        to keep the 2 committees separated.


        Regards,

        Gert-Jan



        Venkatesh Raghavan schreef op 16-03-2016 7:53:

            On 3/16/2016 3:00 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

                I think that nicolas ideas are fully right. Website is
                one of the
                best
                marketing tool.
                Maybe making one committee from two dormient make one
                awake... could
                we
                consider to join webcom and marketing in a new one?


            I also think that merging web and marketing committees
            would make a
            lot
            of sense.

            Best

            Venka

                Maxi
                Il 15/Mar/2016 21:39, "Jody Garnett"
                <jody.garn...@gmail.com
                <mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>> ha
                scritto:

                Thanks Cameron & Nick, could you start outlining a
                "reboot" on the
                wiki
                and grab an agenda item for next months board meeting?
                We also have
                a
                hangout/workparty for board members (and officers?) in
                case you want
                some
                companionship shaping the wiki page.

                --
                Jody Garnett

                On 15 March 2016 at 04:38, nicolas bozon
                <nicolas.bo...@gmail.com <mailto:nicolas.bo...@gmail.com>>
                wrote:

                Dear Cameron, Marketing Committee, OSGeo Directors,

                As a member of the so called "dormant" Marketing
                Committee, i would
                be
                glad to help revitalising it.

                In fact it hasn't been a satisfactory nor confortable
                situation to
                be a
                member of such a forgotten commitee since 2012.
                So i'd like to volunteer for championing such
                committee reboot, and
                propose to help define strategic changes, recruit new
                members and
                tackle
                some of the administrative tasks.
                I can also chair the Committee if needed, and if this is
                appropriated for
                gathering the troops. Cameron, I am not Santa (but
                'Klaus' only:)),
                but I'd
                be very glad to learn from your experience and we may
                try to enhance
                things
                together.

                However,i think the commitee's mission and role should
                be revised,
                probably indepth modified, and aligned with the new
                OSGeo plans.
                My main point is that the mandate of the OSGeo
                Marketing Committee
                must
                go way beyond the funding of OSGeo events and the
                managment of
                consumables
                or swag, as it mostly did (or not) until now.
                OSGeo Live is one of our best marketing tool to
                showcase some of the
                Foundation's software projects, but not to promote and
                market the
                Foundation itself IMHO.
                OSGeo Live must of course be kept inside a new
                marketing plan, but
                the
                latter shouldn't be built on DVDs and events only.

                According to me, improving OSGeo Marketing globally is
                one of the
                most
                important and urgent action to be taken according to
                the new
                strategic plan
                defined by the Board.
                It must help OSGeo to be presented as more matured,
                more inclusive,
                more
                professional, and fully considered by the broader
                geospatial
                community.

                I believe such reborn Marketing Committee should work
                closely along
                with
                the Board of Directors, the Website Committee and a
                few motivated
                contributors, in order to:

                - Define a consitent OSGeo identity from existing material
                (including
                revised graphic guidelines, new shapes and colors
                aligned with
                identified
                needs and recent web trends, new scalable vector
                graphics, web fonts
                ...)
                - Refine the OSGeo web identity (including main site
                redesign
                through the
                developement a new drupal theme, responsive webdesign,
                efficient and
                reusable visuals...)
                - Enhance OSGeo web content and presence (including
                blog, journal,
                newsletter and bring more activity on various social
                networks)
                - Market the OSGeo brand online and at all kind of
                events (including
                consumables management, viral marketing, direct
                marketing...)

                Such actions could be prioritized and voted by the
                Committee's
                members,
                coordinated by the commitee's chair according to the
                Committee
                members, and
                aligned with the allocated budget and volunteered time.

                I sincerly hope we can reboot and improve our
                Marketing Committee
                together, in order to grow and market our Foundation
                better.
                Let us talk, decide and act now ! Enough rest for
                MarkCom' !

                Best regards,

                Nick


On 15/03/2016 10:22 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Before handing out money to undoubtedly worthy causes...a marketing (which is more than just the promotional 'P' ) plan would be the usual starting point. Agreed upon by the Board and with input from all.

So. Why is what is given to whom, when and to what amount? Effectively; what precedes a marketing committee.

Unless, a plan/framework is in place, Santa Claus/Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy/etc. can expect to receive a lot of flak. Groups and initiatives have no clue as to what (governable) rules to comply with. Besides all sorts of unwanted chaos and misunderstandings can be expected.

By the way, does one also not start to code without some sort of initial and agreed plan?

Any volunteers besides me to have a stab at it?

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


                2016-03-15 8:42 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter
                <cameron.shor...@gmail.com
                <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:

                OSGeo needs help distributing money to worthy causes.
                We need an
                OSGeo
                Santa Clause.

                The current state of play is:
                * The OSGeo Board has allocated budget for an OSGeo
                marketing
                committee
                to distribute.

                * But, our OSGeo Marketing committee has imploded. (I
                was the last
                chair, a few years back). It seems no one is
                interested in the
                administrative tasks of giving away money, doing the
                administrative
                work of
                writing cheques, being accountable, deciding which
                requests get
                funded
                verses which don't based on a set of guidelines.

                My take is that handing out money to worthy marketing
                causes can't
                be
                too important, as it is not bugging anyone enough to
                want to step up
                and
                volunteer to fix it. But I'd be delighted to proven
                wrong, and see
                some
                people volunteer to step up to revitalise the OSGeo
                marketing
                committee. If
                you are possibly interested, please speak up. I'd be
                happy to help
                you get
                started.

                A first task would be to consider this request from Bob.

                Warm regards, Cameron

                On 9/03/2016 6:29 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

                Sounds like an amazing event, marketing committee
                should have a
                budget
                to work against shortly (it is an agenda topic for
                this week and you
                can
                see the budget

            
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Operational_Budget_for_2016>

                [1]

                on the wiki ).

                Cameron is involved with both marketing committee and
                OSGeo live and
                should be able to assist.

                --
                Jody Garnett

                On 8 March 2016 at 08:59, Bob Basques
                <bbasq...@sharedgeo.org <mailto:bbasq...@sharedgeo.org>>
                wrote:

                All,

                I haven’t heard anything back on the following request
                from anyone
                (other than Jody commenting about where this should be
                sent . . .).

                So trying again . . .

                --------------------

                All,

                First, let me know if this is the wrong list to
                request from.

                We’re holding a regional Geo conference and would like
                to include
                a
OSGeo-Live thumb drive in each attendees goody bag. So, please
                consider
                this an official request for funding of OSGeo Live
                Thumb Drives for
                the
                event.

                This is a multi- discipline, multi-state event for all
                things Geo.
                60
                confirmed presenters.  This will be a highly
                knowledgable audience
                and
                because of the varied subject matter it will be an
                excellent venue
                to get
                the word out to new folks about OSGeo and it’s
                mission, via the
                OSGeo Live
                project.  More info about the event can be seen here:

                www.umgeocon.org <http://www.umgeocon.org> [2]


                We’ve planned for 350 attendees.  We can make our own
                thumb
                drives,
                and/or pay to have them made ourselves. We’ve handed
                these out in
                the past
                and will also include a getting started cheat sheet
                for each user to
                get
                them going with the least amount of effort.

I haven’t checked lately for the going rate on these. Local
                suppliers
                are advertising ~$5 each for an 8GB USB3.0 blank drive.

                Request is for $2000 ($1750 for Drives, $250 for
                copying the OSGeo
                Live
                suite to each).

                Related, my submission of the OSGeo Live presentation
                has been
                accepted
                at the event, and there will also be a (free) GeoMOOSE
                workshop.

                bobb

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