Cameron is actually referring to this OSGeo list:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev— Andy On Sep 8, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > We will be discussing FOSS4G guidelines quite intensely over next 2 weeks > prior to the next FOSS4G RFQ going out. If you wish to be part of the > conversation, of wish to volunteer to help write the FOSS4G Handbook, please > join the conversation on the Conference email list. > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference > > > On 9/09/2016 12:28 AM, Steven Feldman wrote: >> I can’t join an irc today (or most of next week) - have to leave discussion >> to others or follow on this list - we need to make some decisions within >> next 2 weeks if we are going to get the RfP out before end September. >> >> At worst we can leave some of these topics as unclear or undecided as >> previous years and perhaps consider between LoI and Proposal stages? >> ______ >> Steven >> >> >>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 13:03, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Steven, >>> >>> That is quite a long list of controversial questions. How much time do we >>> have to decide before they are consolidated into the RFP? >>> >>> I'll be on irc://freenode.net#osgeo in ~ 8 hours for ~ 30 mins happy to >>> start talking about these how we answer these issues: >>> >>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=179&p2=189&p3=224&p4=22&p5=240&p6=196&p7=215 >>> >>> >>> On 8/09/2016 9:12 PM, Steven Feldman wrote: >>>> And one more thing! >>>> >>>> 8) There is an ongoing theme in several threads about >>>> inclusiveness/accessibility which tends to focus on the cost of the >>>> conference. We know that travel accommodation and subsistence are a much >>>> greater cost than the delegate fees for many people from outside of the >>>> region where the conference is being held. At Boston I would guess the >>>> cost will be double the delegate fee (i.e. delegate fee will be ca 35% of >>>> total cost for a non US attendee). >>>> >>>> Should we make live video streaming and archiving a mandatory/highly >>>> desired requirement? This would enable much greater reach to those who >>>> can’t afford to come to the event than a travel grants program. Perhaps we >>>> could enhance with use of twitter to enable remote viewers of the stream >>>> to ask questions via the session chair? >>>> ______ >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 12:03, Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Cameron for offer of help. If you and Till are happy to edit >>>>> current wiki page that’s fine with me, I’m probably less fluent in using >>>>> history etc so happy to be guided by you. >>>>> >>>>> Issues/topics that I think we need to consider in time for the 2018 RfP: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Overall financial expectations re surplus and sharing of surplus with >>>>> OSGeo - possibly setting slightly different expectations for RoW to NA & >>>>> EU >>>>> 2) Extent of OSGeo seed finance and guarantee (these are potentially >>>>> different) and connection to 1) above >>>>> 3) Guidelines on ticket pricing (or extent that we leave that to LOC’s >>>>> proposing) >>>>> 4) Guidelines, if any, on the provision of concessionary rates for >>>>> certain categories of delegate (e.g. workshop presenters, students, >>>>> academics, those from lower income countries …). I would suggest that LOC >>>>> needs to incorporate any concessions that it wishes to offer into its >>>>> financial model and not expect any great or funding from OSGeo >>>>> 5) Clarity on ‘travel grant programme’ IMO should be considered same as >>>>> 4) above >>>>> 6) Inclusion of Student Awards - IMO should be organised by Geo4All not >>>>> LOC, funding should come from Geo4All (possibly as part of OSGeo budget >>>>> process) not part of event budget. >>>>> 7) A big question for me: “To what extent do we wish to mandate that the >>>>> basic elements of a FOSS4G remain unchanged? e.g. Codesprint, Workshops, >>>>> Keynotes, Streams of presentations, Academic Track, Gala Night" >>>>> >>>>> All of the above needs to be included in the RfP so that bidders have >>>>> clarity on expectations. I think the Cookbook needs to be both a resource >>>>> for people running a FOSS4G and a useful more detailed reference (almost >>>>> an appendix) to the RfP docs for bidders to make use of. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone think of other stuff that we need to discuss and vote on >>>>> before finalising the RfP and updating the Cookbook? >>>>> ______ >>>>> Steven >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 21:41, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Till, Stephen, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm offering to help too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephen, are there any foss4g rfp topics which you would like to see >>>>>> prioritised and addressed first? >>>>>> >>>>>> Budget expectations sounds like one, and it sounds like we have a range >>>>>> of opinions on the matter (which will likely lead to a vote to resolve). >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephen, I don't think we need to copy cookbook text into a separate >>>>>> page to edit. Most of the cookbook is still relatively raw, and we have >>>>>> the wiki history we can refer to. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the moment, we have been using a convention of new text or comments >>>>>> in red font, until it is generally agreed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Re timeslot for IRC, I'm in an inconvenient timezone in Australia. This >>>>>> time of day has worked for a number of international meetings I attend: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=179&p2=189&p3=224&p4=22&p5=240&p6=196&p7=215 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/09/2016 2:05 AM, Steven Feldman wrote: >>>>>>> Till >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great idea to review/rerwrite the Cookbook. Thanks for offering to lead >>>>>>> on this. Suggest you make a copy of the page and edit/rewrite that so >>>>>>> that we can keep the original for comparison until we approve the new >>>>>>> version. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re the discussion of pricing, grants and guarantees etc - suggest we >>>>>>> start a new thread to canvas opinions. I will respond with some >>>>>>> thoughts in the next couple of days. The discussion will need to be >>>>>>> relatively quick if we want to make any material changes to the 2018 >>>>>>> RfP as we need to get that out before the end of September at the very >>>>>>> latest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> ______ >>>>>>> Steven >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 13:14, till.ad...@fossgis.de wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Steven, @all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> perhaps it's time to do a general review over our Cookbook after it >>>>>>>> already has some years of existence on it's back. I can offer to start >>>>>>>> a general walk through and pick out single points in order to improve >>>>>>>> them. Of course I combine this with the call for participation, so >>>>>>>> that a smaller circle of people (from this list) who are willing to >>>>>>>> jump on find together. We could have frequent IRC chats about single >>>>>>>> topics. >>>>>>>> If something general changes, we come back to the list and discuss it >>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>> As said, just an offer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another point: >>>>>>>> After the crossing mails from the past days, I would suggest to have a >>>>>>>> general discussion about budget, entrance fees, especially lowered >>>>>>>> entrance fees for students and/or attendees from developing countries >>>>>>>> - but if we do so, we need to include the discussion, whether OSGeo is >>>>>>>> willing to give a 100% financial backup to LOC's. Travel granting >>>>>>>> might also be an issue to be discussed within this. >>>>>>>> For me it looks like at this point various people have different >>>>>>>> understandings of global, continental, regional or local FOSS4G's, but >>>>>>>> at least for the global conference we need to come to one accepted >>>>>>>> solution - also in order to prevent upcoming LOCs from having the same >>>>>>>> discussions again and again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, Till >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 2016-09-06 18:38, schrieb Steven Feldman: >>>>>>>>> I have updated the Handbook with all of Astrid’s suggestions and >>>>>>>>> corrected a couple of typos. Feel free to improve even further >>>>>>>>> ______ >>>>>>>>> Steven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3 Sep 2016, at 13:54, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <astrid_e...@osgeo.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (Hi Steven. Somehow I have problems to submit to conference-dev list >>>>>>>>>> at the moment - no confirmation mail is send.... Therefore could you >>>>>>>>>> please forward the mail to the conference-dev list with suggestions >>>>>>>>>> for the FOSS4G Handbook) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Conference list, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> as mentioned in the FOSS4G handbook I follow the process ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Editing_this_document >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some parts in the handbook are very short or do not exist. I wrote >>>>>>>>>> the following suggestions already in Wiki syntax, so that they are >>>>>>>>>> easy to add if you like them. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For discussion: I suggest to add some more information concerning >>>>>>>>>> photos, videos, recording, streaming, twitter and OSGeo-Live. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Press Releases == >>>>>>>>>> add the link so people know where to submit news >>>>>>>>>> * http://www.osgeo.org/content/news/submit_news.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Photos == >>>>>>>>>> FOSS4G runs a flickr group called FOSS4G. You can provide images >>>>>>>>>> from FOSS4G conferences to this group. You can get a member of this >>>>>>>>>> group and share your photos. >>>>>>>>>> If you run the next FOSS4G conference you can ask to become an admin >>>>>>>>>> to change the configuration (ask Steven Feldmann f.e) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * https://www.flickr.com/groups/foss4g/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Videos == >>>>>>>>>> === Vimeo === >>>>>>>>>> Foss4G runs a vimeo account. Where you can upload 20GB per week. >>>>>>>>>> Some conference where uploaded here. A full FOSS4G will produce more >>>>>>>>>> than 20GB of material.. >>>>>>>>>> * the account will be passed every year after the conference to the >>>>>>>>>> next team >>>>>>>>>> * https://vimeo.com/foss4g >>>>>>>>>> * Make sure, that you add enough metadata when you publish your video >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is a video landing page which refers to all videos from the >>>>>>>>>> last conferences. >>>>>>>>>> http://video.foss4g.org >>>>>>>>>> http://video.foss4g.org/foss4g2016/videos/index.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The code for the landing page is in OSGeo git. You can request >>>>>>>>>> access and build your own landing page. >>>>>>>>>> https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/foss4g/video.foss4g.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> === TiB === >>>>>>>>>> * TiB in Hannover is happy to publish our videos from FOSS4G. Peter >>>>>>>>>> Löwe is the contact person. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Recording & streaming == >>>>>>>>>> FOSS4G conference should provide streaming of the talks and >>>>>>>>>> recording for later publishing. >>>>>>>>>> * Streaming enables people that could not come to the conference to >>>>>>>>>> join and even discuss on twitter (like Jeff did 2016). >>>>>>>>>> * Reocrding and publishing helps to spread the knowledge and >>>>>>>>>> awareness about OSGeo software >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == twitter == >>>>>>>>>> * FOSS4G runs the account https://twitter.com/foss4g >>>>>>>>>> * the account will be passed every year after the conference to the >>>>>>>>>> next team >>>>>>>>>> * use #FOSS4G2017 in your tweets (maybe also #FOSS4G?????????????) >>>>>>>>>> * tweetdeck can be used to get a better overview about tweets, >>>>>>>>>> notifications, retweets... https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/ >>>>>>>>>> * http://buffer.com/ (can be used to define tweets in advance and >>>>>>>>>> let them be posted at a defindes time) >>>>>>>>>> * NodeXL shows you the tweet statistics in a graph >>>>>>>>>> https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live >>>>>>>>>> ---------------- >>>>>>>>>> (At the moment it says Live DVD in the handbook but nothing more... >>>>>>>>>> Title should be OSGeo-Live) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == OSGeo-Live == >>>>>>>>>> * http://live.osgeo.org >>>>>>>>>> * There is an OSGeo-Live team that provides every half a year an >>>>>>>>>> image of a collection of over 50 software projects and data and >>>>>>>>>> tutorials >>>>>>>>>> * the OSGeo-live team prepares a Version before FOSS4G that can be >>>>>>>>>> used at the conference in the workshops, at presentation notebooks & >>>>>>>>>> and can be give away to the delegates as bootable USB drives. This >>>>>>>>>> is a great opportunity to spread OSGeo software and promote OSGeo! >>>>>>>>>> * Also the OSGeo-Live team adds OSM data from the region where >>>>>>>>>> FOSS4G takes place (live 2016 data from Bonn was added) >>>>>>>>>> * Also the OSGeo-live team can add your FOSS4G-Logo or material on >>>>>>>>>> the image >>>>>>>>>> * the OSGeo-Live team will help you with USB and image - please >>>>>>>>>> contact them on the mailing list >>>>>>>>>> * Get information about the OSGeo-Live team here >>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc >>>>>>>>>> * Workshops with OSGeo-Live: trainer can refer to Workshop material >>>>>>>>>> here https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/wiki/Live_GIS_Workshop_Install >>>>>>>>>> (there is a link on the desktop of OSGeo-Live which will open the >>>>>>>>>> url) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The following changes or additions are for discussion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Astrid >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> conference_...@lists.osgeo.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list >>>>>>>> conference_...@lists.osgeo.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list >>>>>>> conference_...@lists.osgeo.org >>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cameron Shorter >>>>>> M +61 419 142 254 >>>>>> >>> -- >>> Cameron Shorter >>> M +61 419 142 254 >>> > > -- > Cameron Shorter > M +61 419 142 254 > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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