Thanks Maxi, Freeze time will indeed give us time to assemble all feedback, discuss and prioritise for further improvements. I was not even aware of the holiday season ;-) Enjoy!
Kind regards, Marc Vloemans > Op 16 aug. 2017 om 09:10 heeft Massimiliano Cannata > <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> het volgende geschreven: > > Marc > I agree, great and huge work was done. > Maybe a freezing period before of any public release/presentation would be > good? > > We're not in a hurry... > With more time review and discussion can run smoothly? > > Also, We're in the middle of the holiday season and also vacation time is > limited :-) to answer and check contents... > > Great work done > > Maxi > > > Best > Maxi > > Il 16 ago 2017 2:42 PM, "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloema...@gmail.com> ha scritto: >> Dear all, >> >> I feel that the "tail is wagging the dog" as they say. And we are on the >> brink of pushing valuable volunteers too far. Again. >> >> Your feed back on the website is needed, welcomed and enlisted, but please >> be it combined with some actionable way to go forward and a helping hand. >> The site is still in full progress, if one looks behind the scenes; there >> is a really massive content creation thrust going on, the visitor journey >> experience is enhanced on a daily basis, a multitude of tweaks in progress >> and ..... the FOSS4Paris and Foss4gBoston preparations had to be done too. >> >> It is not the the Marketing Committee that has to fix anything regarding >> projects and policy related issues here. >> Jody and many others have had to make decisions - lacking input on various >> occasions- in good faith. Often lacking clear direction and decisions and >> actual support. This inefficiency has often resulted in rework and loss of >> volunteer time. The Committee is fully aware that there are still iterations >> to be done. Up till now they have done something extraordinary, unparalleled >> in recent OSGeo years. Some slack is in good order. >> >> By the way. The projects that are listed have all an OSI approved license. >> That has sufficed in the past. Let the free vs open discussion rest till a >> later date (if it needs to be conducted at all). Subdivisions of projects >> can be done in various ways: pleasing everyone in our community is a holy >> grail. >> >> And again. Please be aware that there is a finite number of volunteer hours >> in a volunteer day. >> >> Kind regards, >> Marc Vloemans >> >> >>> Op 16 aug. 2017 om 07:37 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli >>> <maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> I agree completely with Helena. It has to be fixed with the highest >>> priority. >>> >>> Have a good day, >>> >>> Maria >>> >>> >>> >>> Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you: >>> http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli >>> Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing >>> Politecnico di Milano >>> >>> ISPRS WG IV/4 "Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" >>> http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors of >>> OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET >>> Advisory Board >>> >>> UN-GGIM Academic Network Deputy Chair, UN-GGIM Italy, UN OpenGIS Initiative >>> (Chair of the Capacity Building WG) >>> >>> Sol Katz Award 2015 >>> >>> P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy) >>> Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867, maria.brove...@polimi.it >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Da: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> per conto di Helena Mitasova >>> <hmit...@ncsu.edu> >>> Inviato: mercoledì 16 agosto 2017 13:29 >>> A: Paulo van Breugel >>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Helmut Kudrnovsky >>> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft >>> >>> Jody, I have to go so I don't have time to write more but this needs to be >>> fixed instantly to avoid massive backlash against the new website. After so >>> much effort it would be heartbreaking to have a negative reaction just >>> because we would be perceived as providing advertising platform for >>> projects which are not really free and open source (I guess we will hear >>> more about this from Stallman tomorrow). >>> >>> Helena >>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Paulo van Breugel >>>> <p.vanbreu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 8/16/17 9:32 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: >>>>> We could ask the OSGeo live project what procedure they use, at the >>>>> moment we have asked on the disc...@osgeo.org mailing list for open >>>>> source projects to fill in a google form so we would have content to try >>>>> out the website with. >>>>> >>>>> There is a very clear distinguishing of OSGeo projects on the website: >>>>> >>>>> a) Sort order is OSGeo projects > OSGeo Community > Other >>>>> b) Only OSGeo projects are available from the menu directly, >>>>> c) When listed OSGeo Projects, and OSGeo Community projects are badged >>>>> with the appropriate logo >>>>> >>>> When I use the link http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ directly, I >>>> am seeing the page with all projects, with projects in what seems to be >>>> random order (and with some of the OSGEO projects, like GRASS, on the last >>>> page). Only when I click on 'projects' in the menu am I presented with the >>>> projects grouped in Osgeo projects, osgeo community, others. Wouldn't it >>>> be preferable to use that page as landing page when using the link >>>> http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ directly? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is going to be an interesting week collecting feedback when lots of >>>>> the website is not working as designed quite yet (examples tagging and >>>>> sorting). To be fair the vast majority of project descriptions were >>>>> entered last weekend so this is our first chance to try things out with >>>>> actual content :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jody Garnett >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 August 2017 at 02:36, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hel...@web.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 um 06:28 Uhr >>>>>> >Von: "Jody Garnett" >>>>>> >Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Not sure it is much of an explanation - our vision as a group is to >>>>>> >empower everyone with geospatial - and there is a lot of open source >>>>>> >>spatial to promote. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >By the same vision live.osgeo.org[http://live.osgeo.org] includes all >>>>>> >kinds of projects :) >>>>>> > >>>>>> >The key idea is to help people new to our world to go through the >>>>>> >choose a project pages and discover projects that meet their needs. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >The website is a beta, we now have enough projects to test out these >>>>>> >ideas and see what issues we can find. There is a meeting tomorrow >>>>>> >>with the vendor that should be productive (a hands on training >>>>>> >session[https://wiki.osgeo.org >>>>>> >/wiki/FOSS4G_2017_Code_Sprint#Website_Training] for any one attending >>>>>> >foss4g). >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm following the new website and branding process a little bit by the >>>>>> mailing lists. >>>>>> >>>>>> is there anywhere a documented discussion or a documented and approved >>>>>> decision about how the project selection to be listed on the OSGeo >>>>>> website is done? I can't find anyone. >>>>>> >>>>>> To be inclusive is one side; not to distinguish OSGeo projects from >>>>>> other software projects from other initatives (e.g. locationtech) or GIS >>>>>> vendors without any supplement words in the OSGeo website, I'm feeling >>>>>> unconformable with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>> Helmut >>>>>> >>>>>> OSGeo charter member >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Helena Mitasova >>> Professor >>> Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences >>> North Carolina State University >>> 1125 Jordan Hall >>> NCSU Box 8208 >>> Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 >>> http://www4.ncsu.edu/~hmitaso/ >>> http://geospatial.ncsu.edu/ >>> >>> email: hmit...@ncsu.edu >>> ph: 919-513-1327 (no voicemail) >>> fax 919 515-7802 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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