Hi Jody,

By alienating the smaller OSGeo companies in our new website, I don't see a benefit to OSGeo at all. Let us please all sizes of OSGeo companies, small and big.

Yes this is tricky, for sure, even your initial message to Jachym shows a lot of what it could be like, if OSGeo suddenly distinguishes size. Let's avoid this totally, I believe.

I am open to other suggestions to the wording as well.

Tricky!  :)

-jeff





On 2017-08-21 6:53 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
I already changed it from number to the size thing.

This list was for support providers (since the website is about outreach looks at projects, local chapters and service providers).

GeoForAll labs and academic / research outreach are in slightly different spot (we could cross link). See http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/geo-for-all-labs/

I do not think public:government, NGO/non-profit would like to be contacted for commercial support :) That said they can be listed in our site as partners and friends. Sort order is given to groups with a defined relationship with OSGeo (such as ISPRS, LocationTech,...). See http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/partners/

Recognizing service providers on our website in this way is a new thing - I hope it works out :)

This design is full of difficult decisions thanks for contributing to the discussion (and content).

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:30 PM Jeff McKenna <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>> wrote:

    Hi Jachym,

    Yes I agree, it is a slippery slope that once we/OSGeo decide that size
    is an important part of our organization (as you know, many other
    organizations separate their membership by size), it opens up so many
    other challenges.  For that reason, I spoke up here to suggest that we
    avoid all that, by suggesting 4 options to cover that.

    Indeed my proposal does include all organizations, purposely.  OSGeo is
    built on that, and has done an amazing job in creating a thriving
    community.

    Thanks for listening Jachym,

    -jeff



    On 2017-08-21 6:17 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
     > Hi Jeff (all)
     >
     > currently, the page is listing "service providers"  - it's project
     > oriented (as providing services to projects)
     >
     > your proposal is shifting it little bit to "all organisations",
    not even
     > service providing - but what is their releationship to the (osgeo)
     > projects? - still, it would be fine to me
     >
     > I would be +1 for it, if it's does not hit to some other principle,
     > already hardcoded in the page (e.g.
     > http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geo-for-all/ is partly
     > coreving the Academic/Research topic - just an example of potencial
     > conflict, which we could oversee)
     >
     > I do not know, just noting, I have no strong opinion - I want to be
     > inclusive, all for adding another categories, but the rules and
     > principals should be clear. Currently, how I understand it "you
    can be
     > listed as long as you are providing services to projects"
     >
     > J
     >
     > út 22. 8. 2017 v 0:11 odesílatel Jeff McKenna
     > <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com
    <mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>
    <mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com
    <mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>>>
     > napsal:
     >
     >     On 2017-08-21 5:11 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
     >      > For your page
     >      >
    http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/ Is
     >     that a
     >      > single consultant (you!) or a company?
     >      > (or perhaps it is just a company with one person in it)
     >      >
     >
     >     Hi Jody,
     >
     >     Regarding separating the OSGeo community by size, I suggest
    that we
     >     avoid offending our community members, so let's stay positive
    and make
     >     the following change:
     >
     >     I recommend that we/OSGeo change the "Organization Type"
    section to
     >     contain the following 4 options:
     >
     >        1. Private
     >        2. Academic/Research
     >        3. Public/Government
     >        4. Non-profit
     >
     >     The same 4 options should be applied to the options in the
    "Filter"
     >     search on the site for "Service Provider Type".
     >
     >     Thanks.
     >
     >     Jachym: you did a great job on the OpenGeoLabs page, and
    thanks for
     >     supporting OSGeo all of these years :)
     >
     >
     >     -jeff
     >
     >
     >
     >     --
     >     Jeff McKenna
     >     President Emeritus, OSGeo Foundation
     > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
     >
     >
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