Hello All, Democracy isn’t the only form of governance, just the one that works for us at times.
Elections are just that, elections. The voice of the whole doesn’t not always recognise an individual’s views, but this doesn’t mean that the views of an individual aren’t important. Sanghee, you’ve raised some very interesting points and one’s that we need to consider long into the future and especially not make rash decisions as a community. Representation from across our community is really important and the centralisation of our committee members in two regions is not a positive one. I’d call on the board to consider what measures they could take to increase representation from across the wider community; potentially including regional representation to the board with voting limited to those from that region. This isn’t a perfect solution, but drastic times call for drastic measures. Just my $0.02s. Best, Mark > On 29 Oct 2017, at 19:36, Massimiliano Cannata > <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote: > > Dear all, > I think that this is democracy. > > You were the board and should have thought when in power to change the > election rules, but since you didn't, to me is not fare to rise concerns just > the day after. Asian is just a part of the world, what about missing > Africans, or south Americans or Oceanians in the past board? Was that more > fare then now? > > We are global and global is the election, we are just members: one member one > vote. We have no closed doors. If you like, make a proposal and ask charter > members to vote on that. > > I regret that Venka, a dear friend, was not elected. Just because it's Venka, > the history and wisdoms of OSGeo and foss4g, not because he's Asian. > > Regarding Jeff I think it's time to stop spamming his reputation. Everybody > should respect the person and the people that voted for him! > He also know much more of OSGeo community than you may think... > > My 0.01 cent. > > Long life to OSGeo. > > Maxi > > > > > > > > Il 29 ott 2017 3:55 PM, "Maria Antonia Brovelli" <maria.brove...@polimi.it > <mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it>> ha scritto: > Dear Sanghee > > Many thanks for your frank email. I also want to congratulate the new friends > elected but, at the same time, I share your same considerations. I feel not > confortable in a Board that is only, as you correctly pointed out, European > and North American. That is not becasue I don't like the current Board > Members. On the opposite, they are wonderful and I love them. But there is > something wrong if we missed one part of the world which before was > represented and we have not added any new one. > > With respect to point 2 of your mail, I also agree with you. It seems me not > serious to change ideas every other day. Also in this case, I have nothing > against Jeff, whose activism, enthusiasm and help is so important for all of > us, but I can simply say that I would not behave in this way. > > Writing this mail was a bit tough and I thank you, Sanghee, for starting this > discussion (I imagine how difficult it was by you). Sometimes we need also to > discuss about weak points in the life of the Foundation. > > Best regards and love to all of you. > > Maria > > > > Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you: > http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies > > <http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies> > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli > Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing > Politecnico di Milano > > ISPRS WG IV/4 "Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" > http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html > <http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html>, Board of Directors of > OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET > Advisory Board > > UN-GGIM Academic Network Deputy Chair, UN-GGIM Italy, UN OpenGIS Initiative > (Chair of the Capacity Building WG) > > Sol Katz Award 2015 > > P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy) > Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867, > <mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it>maria.brove...@polimi.it > <mailto:maria.brove...@polimi.it> > > > > > > > > Da: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > <mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>> per conto di Sanghee Shin > <shs...@gaia3d.com <mailto:shs...@gaia3d.com>> > Inviato: domenica 29 ottobre 2017 15:17 > A: OSGeo Discussions > Oggetto: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections > > Dear All, > > First of all I'd like to give my sincere congratulations to newly elected > board members. Here I want to share some of my feelings around this board > elections. > > 1. Needless to say all new board members are deserved to win the election. > However as a whole, now we have all WHITE board of directors only from Europe > and North America. We've talked about the importance of diversity and > inclusiveness many times so far, however the reality is like this. Please > don't get me wrong. I'm not writing this because of my failure in an > election. Being nominated and encouragement to run the election was just > great honour to me. For me as Asian, one of most shocking and disappointing > moment in this election was Venka's failure in an election. Venka has > contributed so much to Asian community over the last 2 years. His > contributions and activities reached out not only to Japan but also to > Thailand, Vietnam, India and sometimes to Korea as well. He also put so much > efforts organizing FOSS4G Asia this year. And I know as a former board member > how he restlessly carried out his duty as president of OSGeo. And finally he > failed! I know he didn't answer to some of quesitons to nominees during the > election period. Ok, it’s excuse however he and I was being tied up with > handling a urgent issue in community. Anyway I and other Asian friends are so > shocked that he was not elected! I bet other Asian members share the same > feeling. The result gave the clear meaning to Asian community, "If Venka > can't be a board member of OSGeo, nobody can be forever from Asia." I already > saw many complaints and discouragement in Asian community. I believe regions > other than Europe and NA have the rights to be reprensented failry. So, I'd > like to ask new board members to fix this kind of wrong representation of > board configuration by adopting new election rules. > > 2. I believe Jeff McKenna's ambiguous behaviours around election period made > both him and OSGeo untrustworthy. I don't want to mention again here some of > concerns over him in detail during the election. One thing I'd like to point > out is his un-withdrwal from board election after disclosing the results. > Nothing personal, Jeff. Actually I tried to accept and understand this > situation so many times for a couple of days, but I failed to accept. We're > not the children in the kindergarten! How can it be happened? The last thing > I did as a former board member was approving the motion, "This board election > is valid." I was able to block the motion however I approved the motion. > Because I accepted his withdrawal as sincere one and trusted him. I'm feeling > my good intention was being betrayed. I know I don't have any rights now to > change my previous decision and I don't want to criticise someone here. New > board, this case cleary has shown that there's big loophole in our election > process. If OSGe can't fix it, OSGeo will lose trust and credibility. Board, > you need to bear in mind that there's already bunch of sign of loosing trust > from community. > > Many mentioned that OSGeo is run by Do-ocracy. I believe the basis of > Do-ocracy is recognizing of someone's work and trust. If someone's hardwork > is not recognized and acknowledged fairy, who will want to jump into the > matters to fix it? And if someone can't trust the organization, who wants to > put their precious time and efforts to untrustworthy one? > > If OSGeo lose the trust, it will lose everything. OSGeo is just shell. > > Best regards, > 신상희 > --- > Shin, Sanghee > Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company > www.gaia3d.com <http://www.gaia3d.com/> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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