Dear All, Following these discussions, I would warmly welcome you all to contribute to the discussion on the CoC for this year’s FOSS4G: https://github.com/foss4g2018/foss4g2018/issues/65 <https://github.com/foss4g2018/foss4g2018/issues/65>
Many thanks, Mark > On 9 Mar 2018, at 13:44, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mark and others on this list, > > I'm seeing significant agreement here in promoting diversity within OSGeo. I > encourage anyone who feels strongly about this should consider starting > to craft revised text for OSGeo policy documents. Until that happens, we are > all talk, no action, no impact. > The process: Write draft changes to our policy documents, invite review, get > rough consensus on wording, get the conference committee to vote to accept > the proposed changes, update the official documents. > > Documents that I think need reworking are: > > https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/rfp/ > <https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/rfp/> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook > <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook> > Warm regards, Cameron > > On 8/3/18 1:16 am, Mark Iliffe wrote: >> Dear María, >> >> Thanks for the update on this, we as FOSS4G DLOC will follow and further >> participate with interest. >> >> With regard to holding this conversation slowly, may I kindly counsel that >> we proceed as quickly and as openly as possible - to be clear, I do not view >> this as a point of debate for Dar es Salaam, but for our community as a >> whole - the ripples of this conversation go far beyond FOSS4G this year. >> >> The views and their number expressed have reinforced my (personal) view that >> to our credit, we have a great appetite for discussion on this within our >> community regarding diversity and inclusion - to proceed slowly in limited >> forums may provide the signal that we are not taking this seriously - we >> know this is not the case!! - but there is a difference between fact and >> perception unfortunately. >> >> I am not asking for people to come out of the closet to engage in this >> discussion; Personally, I am not LGBT+, however, I have a direct interest in >> making our community to be as inclusive and representative of our world as >> much as possible, this includes those in our community in relative and/or >> absolute poverty (ie. those that utilise QGIS to digitise their >> communities), or from under-represented communities - I believe that we can >> participate in this discussion not based on our race, creed, gender, sexual >> orientation but on the basis as we as a community stand weaker if one of us >> is disadvantaged - can we not engage independently as a member of humanity >> working towards inclusivity and acceptance, instead of categorising >> ourselves? >> >> This maybe a tone deaf view - and if so, please accept my humble apologies - >> but we clearly have a challenge here and while we cannot change the laws of >> any nation that we are working on, we can send the message to the OSGeo >> community that we are listening and through the CoC/diversity >> statement/working groups on LGBT+ etc. that YOU ARE WELCOME IN THIS >> COMMUNITY! >> >> This reinforces my personal view that we need to ensure that all are kept >> aware of these discussions - accordingly, I kindly request that we keep this >> in the OSGeo discuss board and make the F2F discussions in Bonn accessible >> for all and that the board takes appropriate action to ensure that this >> message is heard loud and clear throughout. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Mark >> >>> On 7 Mar 2018, at 02:37, María Arias de Reyna <dela...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:dela...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Mark, >>> >>> Thank you very much for your email. >>> >>> I agree we should continue the discussion in the open. Now we have a >>> clear view of the current situation from the board (and people >>> following that list). A reason why I personally haven't moved this >>> quicker more open is because I don't want OSGeo to be responsible of >>> people coming out of the closet on the community and then travelling >>> to Tanzania and having problems because of that. The risk is very low, >>> as you have confirmed, but this is a very sensitive issue in many >>> countries. Everyone should be aware of this before starting to point >>> personal experiences, especially people coming from privileged >>> countries where being LGBT+ is not only legal, but socially accepted. >>> >>> We have an OSGeo meeting in Bonn very soon and I think that is a >>> proper place to discuss this, as it will be face to face and some >>> people will be able to discuss this without having to write their >>> names anywhere. I agree there should be an LGBT+ group inside OSGeo, >>> and maybe we should provide the tools to allow members from sensitive >>> countries/personal situations to participate anonymously. (How? I >>> don't know yet.) And we should promote also some kind of diversity >>> advice group, where all kind of discriminations can be addressed. >>> Maybe merge this idea with the CoC team? Maybe a separated dedicated >>> team? I don't know. >>> >>> Thanks for this and if you need some immediate action from the board, >>> just let us know. >>> >>> Regards, >>> María. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:11 AM, Mark Iliffe <markili...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:markili...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> Dear OSGeo Board, >>>> >>>> On the 20th of February I wrote in response to a concern raised on LGBT+ >>>> concerns in Dar es Salaam. To this, set out the following four action >>>> points: >>>> >>>>> To help move forward on this, we will 1. Ensure that we provide guidance >>>>> to those in our community on this issue; 2. Seek dialog within our >>>>> community >>>>> on this issue, I am personally contactable on this and fully welcome any >>>>> and >>>>> all people who wish to discuss this on a face-to-face (over VC) or any >>>>> other >>>>> medium that the community would feel better with; 3. Recommend that the >>>>> board puts in place guidance for future OSGEO conferences other this >>>>> issues; >>>>> 4. Support the formation of an LGBT+ grouping within OSGEO to better >>>>> support >>>>> appropriate guidance on this issue. >>>> >>>> >>>> To update on this: >>>> >>>> 1. We are collaborating with Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team on this issue, >>>> to ensure that the response to our mutual communities are in lock-step on >>>> this issue. Guidance will be published for consultation for the conference >>>> shortly; >>>> 2. I have reached out to members of the LGBT+ community that I know >>>> personally on a bilateral basis. I would welcome further dialogue with the >>>> OSGeo LGBT+ community on a bilateral, private basis for people to voice >>>> their concerns in confidence; >>>> >>>> Points 3 and 4 are of specific interest, in the view of the LOC of FOSS4G >>>> 2018, as we can set policy direction for our conference, but have no >>>> mandate >>>> nor mechanism to set policy across OSGeo. To this end, I would formally >>>> request, in my role of Chair of FOSS4G for the OSGeo Board to provide >>>> direction to future FOSS4G conferences and to further support and service >>>> this community within our wider community. >>>> >>>> Clearly, there is a desire for LGBT+ to be considered further in our >>>> community - as noted in the transcript of the previous board meeting [1], >>>> but I think this needs to be communicated to our wider community - I see >>>> the >>>> discussions on the OSGeo board mailing list, though this may not have the >>>> widest circulation. I am also available to have a video conference with the >>>> board, at their earliest possible convenience if such an invitation was >>>> extended. >>>> >>>> Finally, I really want to stress this for our conference in Dar es Salaam >>>> this year to our community: We want to have the most inclusive conference >>>> that we can possibly have. In the same way that previous FOSS4G events in >>>> Boston and North Carolina have demonstrated, our conferences have dealt >>>> with >>>> challenges within the wider legislative framework of their host country, we >>>> as a community are welcoming to any and all with open arms. We will publish >>>> guidance for those travelling, and if you still wish to participate but >>>> cannot come to Dar es Salaam, get in touch with us - we will help you get >>>> involved! Our FOSS4G will only be successful due to ALL the people in our >>>> OSGeo community; we are a big and dynamic family - we will reflect and live >>>> that this year in Dar es Salaam, and I hope in the many years to come. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01 >>>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-03-01> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: jorge.dejesus <jorge.deje...@geocat.net >>>> <mailto:jorge.deje...@geocat.net>> >>>> Date: 21 February 2018 at 08:26 >>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] LGBT in Tanzania >>>> To: conference_...@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:conference_...@lists.osgeo.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi to all >>>> >>>> I was following the LGBT in Tanzania discussion, and I am happy to see the >>>> question added to the next RfP. >>>> >>>> The discussion on LGBT rights and safety requires a bit of common sense, I >>>> am LGBT it is one part of my live as being OsGEO member is another (one of >>>> many) part(s), normally these two don't intercept much, personally I think >>>> this is why the LGBT community is present in OsGEO but very invisible. >>>> What?? No LGBT birds of the feather in FOSS4G ??? >>>> >>>> Having a code of conduct that is non discriminatory, we must take into >>>> consideration the rights of minorities and safety of ALL the participants >>>> of >>>> and a OsGEO conference, the LOC have to do their best for the safety. LOC >>>> should also informed participants on what are the real problems that >>>> participants may have to face, then is up to the participants to decide if >>>> they fell comfortable to to attend the conference. >>>> >>>> Again, nice to see this topic discussed and remember these comments are my >>>> 2 >>>> cents >>>> >>>> Enjoy your day >>>> Jorge >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21-02-18 10:30, Till Adams wrote: >>>> >>>> Darrell, @ohers, >>>> >>>> thanks for the sum up, I agree in including such a question in the next >>>> RfP. In order to preserve your proposal, I've added your questionTill here: >>>> >>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rfp <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rfp> >>>> >>>> I will add this to the next RfP-text. >>>> >>>> >>>> Till >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 20.02.2018 um 18:32 schrieb Darrell Fuhriman: >>>> >>>> "FOSS4G attracts a global, diverse community. Are there any laws, or >>>> social norms, in your proposed location that would make members of our >>>> community feel unsafe or unwelcome? That could include, but is not >>>> limited to, anti-LGBTQ+ policies, policies that would prevent the free >>>> exercise of religion, restrictions on certain activities based on >>>> gender or other factor, etc?” >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Conference_dev mailing list >>>> conference_...@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:conference_...@lists.osgeo.org> >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev >>>> <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Conference_dev mailing list >>>> conference_...@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:conference_...@lists.osgeo.org> >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev >>>> <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev> >>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Conference_dev mailing list >> conference_...@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:conference_...@lists.osgeo.org> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev >> <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev> > -- > Cameron Shorter > Technology Demystifier, Learnosity > Open Technologies Consultant > > M +61 (0) 419 142 254
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