good Idea, I like it :) Luigi Pirelli
p.s Tom is one I seconded, and I never met him ;) ************************************************************************************************** * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigipirelli * Stackexchange: http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/19667/luigi-pirelli * GitHub: https://github.com/luipir * Mastering QGIS 2nd Edition: * https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/mastering-qgis-second-edition * Hire me: http://goo.gl/BYRQKg ************************************************************************************************** On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 12:45, Tom Chadwin <tom.chad...@nnpa.org.uk> wrote: > Hello all > > > > Perhaps if we request a declaration of any relationship (commercial or > personal) between nominator/seconder and nominee, that would make > everything transparent, and allow members to judge for themselves whether > such relationships cast doubt on the validity of the nominee? > > > > Thanks > > > > Tom > > > > > > *From:* Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *María > Arias de Reyna > *Sent:* 18 December 2018 11:15 > *To:* Luigi Pirelli > *Cc:* OSGeo Discussions > *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Code of Conduct... followup to avoid > lobbies > > > > Hi, > > > > I agree with Luigi in that we should be aware of this and have common > rules. I think this falls into the "common sense" that is not so common > once you start mixing cultures. I have also experienced this "I prefer to > have someone not from my company do this" to make sure everything is clear > and transparent while I saw other people not waiting for that. And, at the > same time, I have nominated a coworker not because he's in my company but > because I knew he deserved it. > > > > So... where to draw the line? More complex rules? Trust an abstract > "common sense" that will differ depending on the individual? > > > > Also, if there is no "rule" or "recommendation" about what to do about > lobbies... why would a company think it is bad to lobby inside OSGeo and > have members participating? Why would anyone think it is bad to have their > private interests pushing? I mean, for me it is clear but I understand not > everyone understands open software the same way. If you go to more > capitalist liberal cultures, you may found people thinking that the obvious > way to work is to have companies investing directly on their interests > through OSGeo, so pushing to have more power inside OSGeo to recover that > investment makes sense to them. It is another way of understanding open > software. A way I don't agree with, but who am I to say it is not valid... > unless OSGeo explicitly says so? > > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:50 AM Luigi Pirelli <lui...@gmail.com> wrote: > > in my experience, "trust that they would speak up " is so strongly > dependent on culture that I would prefer a rule. > > > > in this election I saw a company member propose a colleague, this for me > is not ethically correct, but I shut up because who I'm I to judge the > contribution of this nomination in his "dev" community or other OS related > community? > > > > I remember all the time I spent waiting review of my PR from outside the > company where I worked, because for me it's not ethical (and safe) that a > colleague would review my work when this work affect all the rest of the > world! > > > > btw for me no problem if "all" of us can live with this risks > > > > Luigi Pirelli > > > ************************************************************************************************** > * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigipirelli > * Stackexchange: http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/19667/luigi-pirelli > * GitHub: https://github.com/luipir > * Mastering QGIS 2nd Edition: > * > https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/mastering-qgis-second-edition > * Hire me: http://goo.gl/BYRQKg > > ************************************************************************************************** > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 11:27, Hans Gregers Hedegaard Petersen < > greg...@septima.dk> wrote: > > Hi Luigi, > > > > Yes, I have a trust in our members, and also trust that they would speak > up their concerns if they saw a problem (of any kind) with a nomination. > > > > Best, > > > > Greg > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 11:18, Luigi Pirelli <lui...@gmail.com> wrote: > > let me rephrase, your suggestion is that, with the actual rule, in case of > "lobby", other member should rise the exception for a specified candidate? > > Luigi Pirelli > > > ************************************************************************************************** > * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigipirelli > * Stackexchange: http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/19667/luigi-pirelli > * GitHub: https://github.com/luipir > * Mastering QGIS 2nd Edition: > * > https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/mastering-qgis-second-edition > * Hire me: http://goo.gl/BYRQKg > > ************************************************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > Tom Chadwin, ICT Manager > Telephone: 01434 611530 Mob: > Web: www.northumberlandnationalpark.org.uk > > *IMPORTANT NOTICE* - Disclaimer - This communication is from > Northumberland National Park Authority (NNPA).The Authority’s head office > and principal place of business is Eastburn, South Park, Hexham, > Northumberland, NE46 1BS, United Kingdom. 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