The way I see it, because these work together as one unit, we should at least
keep them all together as one server. It would be odd to buy all these
synchronous machines and then separate them. (Like, do the usual type of
loaning where we can get it back if we need it, after 30 days.)
Chris, if you suddenly had $2500 (plus shipping and whatever?) would you be
able to do the transaction and shipping?
Ron, or Jay, if we got these and they work great, would SkullSpace be
interested in buying some, here and there, as funding permits? It’s probably
the best server solution we’ll have for a long time.
From: chris kluka
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:22 AM
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace
To be clear on my position, I'd be willing to throw some cash in someone's hand
and help move setup/etc... and also verify configurations for compatibility
(that we would have the right cables, types of stuff, etc...), but I am not in
a financial position to be the one who collects the money and performs the
transaction.
But I'm good to spend up to about $800 to get 3-4 blades or $250-450 for 1-2
blades. I would not expect to retain ownership of them (skullspace can own
them), but i would expect to get priority access to them.
I would install a clustering-capable hypervisor on them, and then hand out VM's
to anyone who wants them. Anyone else who would like to buy blades, add them to
the cluster, and either reserve the blade for your own compute workloads, or,
allow other people's VM's to run on your hardware, would be appreciated.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Ian E. Trump <itr...@octopitech.com> wrote:
Hey way cool,
140GB would be fine, were a MS Small Business Partner so were good for
licenses. There will be some shipping charges. Perhaps we need a Blade Strike
Force? To get this rolling.
Ian
From: discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca] On Behalf Of chris kluka
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 09:47
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace
I would buy 4 of them for $600; There will be 2x 74 or 146GB 10K SAS drives
in it; so no, u do not need drives. (unless you need more capacity than 280Gb
raid 0 or 140GB raid 1. )
Load what ever you want to load on it; it'd be your blade. Though I wont be
responsible for loading unlicensed OS's :P.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Ian E. Trump <itr...@octopitech.com> wrote:
I would buy one blade for $150'ish.
Would get to load my own OS? Do I need to purchase SATA drives for it?
Ian
Ian Trump
Octopi Managed Services
(204) 770 8894
itr...@octopitech.com
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From: chris kluka
Sent: Fri 24-Aug-12 02:14
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace
To be 100% honest, I've been awake for 19 hours at this point and I shouldn't
be doing math right now.
I'll check stuff tomorrow, but yes, they are reasonably good computers. They
are probably gen 5 or gen 6 (current is gen 8, 3 year old is gen 7).
They are dual quad core systems off lease.
There are TONS to choose from:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=c7000%20bl460c&_sop=15&_clu=2&_fcid=2&_localstpos=r3r%203p2&_stpos=r3r%203p2&gbr=1
I just keep my eye on that search; Every 5-10 days someone lists a 16-blade
system for like $2000.
Even right now, there is a 16 blade system loaded with 32x Xeon 5450's (quad
core /w hyperthreading) and 256GB ram for $7000, which seems to be the "going
price" for volume sales; but I have seen 2 different auctions in the last 20
days go for $2000 and $2600 with dual quad cores.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Michael Kozakewich
<mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com> wrote:
How about we all pitch in?
I mean, we’re talking about machines with dual quad-core CPUs and 16 GB of
RAM, for $150 each.
Chris, you’re certain this will only cost that much? Why? Are these Core2 and
DDR2?
We can get 16 people to sort of proxy this by each buying one unit, and
possibly sell them to SkullSpace as decisions and budgets allow.
Heck, I’d put in for a few, and that’ll lessen the number of people needed.
From: Ken DeWitt
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:46 PM
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace
I agree with buying the 3000 system and not the cr*** Dell systems. I will
even pay for the systems if I get this new job.
Any question or comments you can email or call me at any time.
I will get back to you as fast as I can.
Thank you and have a nice day!!
Ken DeWitt
Your Fellow Tech. Guy
Phone # : 204-998-3218
Email: mailto:kendew...@yourfellowtechguy.comftg.ca
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM, chris kluka <asd...@asdlkf.net> wrote:
@ayecee the ROI is theoretical, not actual. The savings will be in our
landlord's power bill, not our own pocket. Perhaps if we could document this
power reduction, we could use that information in rent negotiations?
@ayecee, @Daniel, with a blade center, we would have iLo management and
BladeCenter management interfaces available for remotely doing operations like
putting ISO files into virtual-DVD drives, pressing power buttons, changing
switching fabric, etc... The blade center systems are designed to only ever
require human onsite presence for initial setup, replacing failed (redundant)
hardware, upgrades, or decommissioning.
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:53 PM, ayecee <aye...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, Mark runs a VM server. It runs noisy and hot even when lightly loaded,
and when your VM stops working, you can't go to the space and kick it.
I'm presently unable to login to my account on it, and some day I'll get
around to rectifying that.
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Daniel Stankewich
<daniel.stankew...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess that's why I'm used to DC power. heh.
Doesn't Skullspace have some sort of VM thing running? Wasn't someone
working on that?
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:43 PM, ayecee <aye...@gmail.com> wrote:
We do not have DC power available. That would be more typical of telco
installations.
DC servers run cooler because the AC/DC is handled further upstream, but
the power usage is roughly the same.
@chris - how are you calculating the ROI? If we're not including power
usage, where does the extra income figure in?
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