Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Strikeforce Blade

Michael Kozakewich Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:45:48 -0700

Maaan, I prefer this email address. Less stuff in the footer.

From: Ken DeWitt 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 6:47 PM
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca 
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Strikeforce Blade

I would be willing To buy The Systems as long as skullspave can be the place
that I Space them To and if I get this New job that I have applied for.

On Aug 24, 2012 1:02 PM, "chris kluka" <asd...@asdlkf.net> wrote:

I agree with the timeline of a few months;

the $2500 pricing is also sort of a "Hunt down some amazing deals" kind of
pricing. Usually they are 5000-6000.

But yes, I could do the transaction (given a few days for funds to clear, or,
I just arrange the transaction and someone else does the actual paypal or
wiretransfer).

For now though, I expect the point is moot since there are none listed. I'll
re-raise this issue if I see another good deal come up and we'll make a
decision at that time.

-- Chris

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Michael Kozakewich
<mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com> wrote:

Yeah, call it six or seven months down the road.

-----Original Message----- From: Colin Stanners
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:45 PM
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Strikeforce Blade

Sksp currently has a lot to pay for electrical - it'll be a while
before we even have power to pay for these.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Michael Kozakewich
<mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com> wrote:

The way I see it, because these work together as one unit, we should at
least keep them all together as one server. It would be odd to buy all
these
synchronous machines and then separate them. (Like, do the usual type of
loaning where we can get it back if we need it, after 30 days.)

Chris, if you suddenly had $2500 (plus shipping and whatever?) would you
be
able to do the transaction and shipping?

Ron, or Jay, if we got these and they work great, would SkullSpace be
interested in buying some, here and there, as funding permits? It’s
probably
the best server solution we’ll have for a long time.

From: chris kluka
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:22 AM
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace

To be clear on my position, I'd be willing to throw some cash in someone's
hand and help move setup/etc... and also verify configurations for
compatibility (that we would have the right cables, types of stuff,
etc...),
but I am not in a financial position to be the one who collects the money
and performs the transaction.

But I'm good to spend up to about $800 to get 3-4 blades or $250-450 for
1-2
blades. I would not expect to retain ownership of them (skullspace can own
them), but i would expect to get priority access to them.

I would install a clustering-capable hypervisor on them, and then hand out
VM's to anyone who wants them. Anyone else who would like to buy blades,
add
them to the cluster, and either reserve the blade for your own compute
workloads, or, allow other people's VM's to run on your hardware, would be
appreciated.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Ian E. Trump <itr...@octopitech.com>
wrote:

Hey way cool,

140GB would be fine, were a MS Small Business Partner so were good for
licenses. There will be some shipping charges. Perhaps we need a Blade
Strike Force? To get this rolling.

Ian

From: discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca] On Behalf Of chris kluka
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 09:47

To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace

I would buy 4 of them for $600; There will be 2x 74 or 146GB 10K SAS
drives in it; so no, u do not need drives. (unless you need more
capacity
than 280Gb raid 0 or 140GB raid 1. )

Load what ever you want to load on it; it'd be your blade. Though I wont
be responsible for loading unlicensed OS's :P.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Ian E. Trump <itr...@octopitech.com>
wrote:

I would buy one blade for $150'ish.

Would get to load my own OS? Do I need to purchase SATA drives for it?

Ian

Ian Trump

Octopi Managed Services

(204) 770 8894

itr...@octopitech.com

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From: chris kluka
Sent: Fri 24-Aug-12 02:14

To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace

To be 100% honest, I've been awake for 19 hours at this point and I
shouldn't be doing math right now.

I'll check stuff tomorrow, but yes, they are reasonably good computers.
They are probably gen 5 or gen 6 (current is gen 8, 3 year old is gen
7).

They are dual quad core systems off lease.

There are TONS to choose from:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=c7000%20bl460c&_sop=15&_clu=2&_fcid=2&_localstpos=r3r%203p2&_stpos=r3r%203p2&gbr=1

I just keep my eye on that search; Every 5-10 days someone lists a
16-blade system for like $2000.

Even right now, there is a 16 blade system loaded with 32x Xeon 5450's
(quad core /w hyperthreading) and 256GB ram for $7000, which seems to
be the
"going price" for volume sales; but I have seen 2 different auctions in
the
last 20 days go for $2000 and $2600 with dual quad cores.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Michael Kozakewich
<mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com> wrote:

How about we all pitch in?

I mean, we’re talking about machines with dual quad-core CPUs and 16 GB
of
RAM, for $150 each.

Chris, you’re certain this will only cost that much? Why? Are these
Core2
and DDR2?

We can get 16 people to sort of proxy this by each buying one unit, and
possibly sell them to SkullSpace as decisions and budgets allow.

Heck, I’d put in for a few, and that’ll lessen the number of people
needed.

From: Ken DeWitt

Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:46 PM

To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca

Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Electrical Usage at SkullSpace

I agree with buying the 3000 system and not the cr*** Dell systems. I
will even pay for the systems if I get this new job.

Any question or comments you can email or call me at any time.
I will get back to you as fast as I can.

Thank you and have a nice day!!

Ken DeWitt
Your Fellow Tech. Guy

Phone # : 204-998-3218
Email: mailto:kendew...@yourfellowtechguy.comftg.ca

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM, chris kluka <asd...@asdlkf.net> wrote:

@ayecee the ROI is theoretical, not actual. The savings will be in our
landlord's power bill, not our own pocket. Perhaps if we could document
this
power reduction, we could use that information in rent negotiations?

@ayecee, @Daniel, with a blade center, we would have iLo management and
BladeCenter management interfaces available for remotely doing
operations
like putting ISO files into virtual-DVD drives, pressing power buttons,
changing switching fabric, etc... The blade center systems are designed
to
only ever require human onsite presence for initial setup, replacing
failed
(redundant) hardware, upgrades, or decommissioning.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:53 PM, ayecee <aye...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, Mark runs a VM server. It runs noisy and hot even when lightly
loaded, and when your VM stops working, you can't go to the space and
kick
it.

I'm presently unable to login to my account on it, and some day I'll get
around to rectifying that.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Daniel Stankewich
<daniel.stankew...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guess that's why I'm used to DC power. heh.

Doesn't Skullspace have some sort of VM thing running? Wasn't someone
working on that?

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:43 PM, ayecee <aye...@gmail.com> wrote:

We do not have DC power available. That would be more typical of telco
installations.

DC servers run cooler because the AC/DC is handled further upstream, but
the power usage is roughly the same.

@chris - how are you calculating the ROI? If we're not including power
usage, where does the extra income figure in?

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