We need to have almost-permanent walls, else we'll have complaints often
when some people are having movies/games/a meeting and others are trying to
work. No point in spending a huge amount of money ($14K/year?) to move
somewhere that will suck.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:

> What are your requirements for an office? Would you just need a desk?
> Keep in mind the space we're looking at is wide-open and we can't
> build permanent walls in it. I don't know if we could offer a locked
> room but I'm sure we could create some kind of gate (?) that clearly
> says private area - keep out. I think all members would respect this.
>
> On 1 November 2012 15:11, Gordon Taylor <gtay...@macdon.com> wrote:
> > I would pay extra for an office
> > GT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca [mailto:
> discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca] On Behalf Of Michael Kozakewich
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:36 PM
> > To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] cashflow post move, yellow dog
> location, the gap and more
> >
> > We're going to have to re-jigger the floor plan a little, because it IS
> still big and there's a lot we can do with it.
> >
> > Has anyone talked about office space for members? Ron said he'd be
> willing to pay for a little space somewhere where he can work. I was
> thinking we could design little 5'x4' cubicles or something, for
> $100/month, which we could also give to members who need additional storage
> space.
> >
> > Justin, can you upload the floor-plan you got? We can take a look at
> what works where.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Lacko
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:21 PM
> > To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] cashflow post move, yellow dog
> location, the gap and more
> >
> > We're a not-for-profit and I wouldn't call this reselling. These aren't
> commercial servers - they're members' servers and the cost is going to help
> offset power. These are the same servers we're hosting right now, for the
> most part. You seem to be thinking in terms of some kind of official
> reseller plan - I'm thinking member-based machines that are already
> operating.
> >
> > Do we require walls for a server room? Can we not stand up two racks
> against the wall in a low-traffic area? Do we not already have UPSes that
> you have been testing out?
> >
> > On 1 November 2012 14:16, Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Considering extra expenses, that's more like $400-500 per month away
> >> from breaking even. I don't like the financials of this move, we
> >> should try to always assume worst-case.
> >>
> >> Also I'm not sure about charging for server space - we have no SLAs,
> >> no walls for our server room there, heck you didn't even put a server
> >> room on the plans. Also paid server space should have redundant
> >> internet and more UPSes, neither of which we have, and I'm not sure
> >> VOI will be happy about us reselling our free service for money - they
> >> seemed to indicate it was no-SLA/hobbyist/not for profit before.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/1/12, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
> >>> Mark,
> >>>
> >>> $80 pledge - 1 member
> >>> $60 pledge - 14 members
> >>> $50 pledge - 6 members
> >>> $40 pledge - 2 members
> >>>
> >>> Total: $1300 from 22 members
> >>> 1 member was undecided
> >>> 19 members still need to be contacted.
> >>>
> >>> 1 member is willing to relocate his servers to our space and pay
> $100/mo.
> >>>
> >>> Other considerations from the meeting:
> >>> Server space: $10/mo.
> >>> Classroom rental: $50/event
> >>> Power estimate: $300/mo.
> >>>
> >>> Assume our rent is $2100/mo., add power = $2400/mo.
> >>> Assume remaining 19 members only pay $40/mo. = $760/mo.
> >>>
> >>> $1300 + $760 + $100 + $30 (estimate 3 servers being hosted) = $2190/mo.
> >>>
> >>> Therefore, we are actually $210 away from breaking even. ***However,
> >>> this doesn't include the cost of insurance, which I believe Courtney
> >>> will look into to see if the price would be changing.***
> >>>
> >>> Now don't forget that we have ~$8000 in our bank. This can serve as
> >>> the source of our discretionary spending month-to-month. I would put
> >>> a limit of $400/mo. or something similar from these funds.
> >>>
> >>> I'm confident that we can talk to the remaining 19 members and ask if
> >>> they are willing to pay more than $40/mo. to help us out with this.
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