Got a response: "Hi Benjamin, Yes, you are correct that kit includes everything except a computerc style power cord and filament. All of our kits (hardware/full) include a 24v kapton bed heater.
We use 3mm filament as we find it doesn't tangle as easily. The supplied jhead hotend can print any 3mm filament that operates at or below 240C. Let me know if you have any further questions. Roy Maker's Tool Works" Since the bed heater is included, I removed it from my order. This has brought the price down to $1490 shipped (plus duty and filament). Shipping seems to be included in the kit price, so unless they can do something special for us (there was no comment in their previous response) I don't think there will be any bundled shipping deal. Since it uses 3.0mm filament, I suggest that anything raised over the $1500 that isn't needed for duty costs go towards buying filament from Ward. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Benjamin Bergman <b...@benbergman.ca>wrote: > Woops, it looks like I might have had changed colours in my cart. That > should have been $1600. > > $1600 comes from $55 shipping, $55 for heated bed upgrade + glass (kit is > unclear if this is included) + $1490 for the printer kit (price jumps $95 > from the $1395 when you say it is for Canada/Mexico). > > I'll add your additional questions to my enquiry. > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I was going to suggest we contact them to ensure the listed kit is in >> fact a complete printer. In addition to the Cartesian robot hardware we >> should verify that it includes electronics, motors, extruder, hot end, and >> heated bed. Also could you inquire about combined shipping for multiple >> order as I am seriously considering purchasing the hardware only kit for my >> self would be interested in splitting shipping with Skullspace. >> >> Wait, where did $1650 come from. I see the listed price at $1395. Even >> with taxes and shipping I can't get that number. Keep in mind that choosing >> colored aluminum pieces costs more. >> >> >We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can jump >> start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, >maybe we can get some of >> Ward's at $50 >> >> Based on the advertised print speeds I would imagine this printer uses >> 1.75 mm filament although that could always be changed with a new >> extruder/hot end kit. >> >> Does anyone know what the print speed of the Thing-o-matic is? I think >> the build envelope is only 120mmx120mmx120mm. That is quite small, if >> correct. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Benjamin Bergman <b...@benbergman.ca>wrote: >> >>> I'm waiting on a response from their support team to confirm that all >>> required parts are included, but it looks like we can have it for $1650 + >>> whatever duty there is at the border. >>> >>> We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can jump >>> start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, maybe we can get some of Ward's >>> at $50, otherwise we need to get one shipped for maybe $75-100. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Bergman <b...@benbergman.ca>wrote: >>> >>>> Editing the wiki now. Will look up shipping shortly. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds good to me! >>>>> >>>>> If you could figure out the final cost, that'd be great. We're at $1250 >>>>> right now, I can post to announce@ again when we have the final >>>>> option. >>>>> >>>>> Also, would you mind posting the two choices to the wiki page? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Ron >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-01-31 09:14, Benjamin Bergman wrote: >>>>> > Mendel Max 2.0 sounds great! They have a free parts upgrade for the >>>>> beta, >>>>> > so any parts that change in the final release could be ours for just >>>>> the >>>>> > price of shipping. >>>>> > >>>>> > So, now we just need to figure out the shipping cost and then we can >>>>> > propose that as the #1 choice. I think Ward's Thing-o-Matic is still >>>>> a >>>>> > decent second choice in case we can't raise enough as it is shipping >>>>> free, >>>>> > works, and has free setup + instruction from him. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > I've been looking at the availability of printers and I'd like to >>>>> add >>>>> > > another for consideration. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > First off, the Mendel Max Pro doesn't seem to be available >>>>> anymore. The >>>>> > > website linked to in the Make review now sells what seems to be a >>>>> more >>>>> > > expensive version of the printer I'm about to talk about. >>>>> > > http://trinitylabs.com/products/aluminatus-trinityone-3d-printer >>>>> > > >>>>> > > The Mendel Max 2.0 is my primary recommendation, if we can get >>>>> one. Here's >>>>> > > why. >>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/ >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Pros: >>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 245 mm x 315 mm x 225 mm (9.6"x12.4"x8.9") >>>>> > > - Usable Maximum Print Speed: 250mm/sec or more depending on the >>>>> part, >>>>> > > print material, and extruder >>>>> > > - Frame: All aluminum >>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/?wiki=mendelmax-versions >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Cons: >>>>> > > - Currently in beta >>>>> > > - Won't ship until February 25 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Availability: >>>>> > > -$1395.00 as a kit >>>>> > > >>>>> http://store.makerstoolworks.com/printer-kits/mendelmax-2-0-beta-kit/ >>>>> > > >>>>> > > It prints 100mm/sec faster and has a larger print envelope than >>>>> both the >>>>> > > Ultimaker and the Mendel Max 1.5. It is also closely related to >>>>> the open >>>>> > > source Reprap project and community. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Ultimaker. >>>>> > > http://ultimaker.com/ >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Specs: >>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 211mm x 211mm x 211mm (8.3″×8.3″×8.3″) >>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Availability: >>>>> > > - $2310.00 fully assembled, however I suspect it might be >>>>> prohibitively >>>>> > > expensive to ship from Europe. >>>>> > > >>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/assembled-ultimakers/assembled-um.html >>>>> > > >>>>> > > - $1625.00 as a kit >>>>> > > >>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/ultimaker-kits/ultimaker-kit-new.html >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Mendel Max 1.5. >>>>> > > http://reprap.org/wiki/MendelMax >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Specs: >>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: ~215-230 mm x ~215-250 mm x ~140-175 mm >>>>> > > (9"x10"x7") >>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Availability: >>>>> > > - $1906.00 fully assembled, shipping $498.82 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Fully-Assembled-and-Tuned-IC3D-RepRap-3D-Printer-MendelMax-/111002420941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d84286cd >>>>> > > >>>>> > > - $900.00 - $1200.00 as a kit, shipping $120.00 - $160.00 >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mendelmax-Ultimate-3d-printer-kit-Ramps-LCD-Printed-Parts-Complete-Color-Choice-/281055575886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417037bf4e >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Making a secondary recommendation between these two printers is >>>>> difficult >>>>> > > because I don't know very much about the Ultimaker style of >>>>> printer. I was >>>>> > > prepared to recommend the Ultimaker over the Mendel Max 1.5 until I >>>>> > > converted the build dimensions into the same units and realized >>>>> the Mendel >>>>> > > Max 1.5 has about the same or more print area (depending on where >>>>> you look >>>>> > > it up), although less height. As far as print resolution (z-axis >>>>> > > resolution) is concerned, because these printers use threaded rod >>>>> to drive >>>>> > > the z-axis they are all mechanically capable of printing down to >>>>> very low >>>>> > > layer heights like .04mm. The ability to do so will depend on what >>>>> kind of >>>>> > > extruder nozzle is fitted to the printer and how you configure the >>>>> slicing >>>>> > > software. Given all of this I think my secondary recommendation is >>>>> still >>>>> > > the Mendal Max 1.5. 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