I'm down to do a border pickup if it means some free shipping. Just send it to one of these places http://www.pembinaparcel.com/
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Benjamin Bergman <b...@benbergman.ca>wrote: > The price jumps a bit when selecting USA too. If this is all that is in > the cart, shipping is listed as free, so I think it is shipping plus > whatever special handling charges there are. > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yeah, I noticed the priced jump upon selecting Canada too. Is this just >> additional handling charges related to filling out customs paper work? >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Benjamin Bergman <b...@benbergman.ca>wrote: >> >>> Woops, it looks like I might have had changed colours in my cart. That >>> should have been $1600. >>> >>> $1600 comes from $55 shipping, $55 for heated bed upgrade + glass (kit >>> is unclear if this is included) + $1490 for the printer kit (price jumps >>> $95 from the $1395 when you say it is for Canada/Mexico). >>> >>> I'll add your additional questions to my enquiry. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I was going to suggest we contact them to ensure the listed kit is in >>>> fact a complete printer. In addition to the Cartesian robot hardware we >>>> should verify that it includes electronics, motors, extruder, hot end, and >>>> heated bed. Also could you inquire about combined shipping for multiple >>>> order as I am seriously considering purchasing the hardware only kit for my >>>> self would be interested in splitting shipping with Skullspace. >>>> >>>> Wait, where did $1650 come from. I see the listed price at $1395. Even >>>> with taxes and shipping I can't get that number. Keep in mind that choosing >>>> colored aluminum pieces costs more. >>>> >>>> >We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can >>>> jump start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, >maybe we can get some of >>>> Ward's at $50 >>>> >>>> Based on the advertised print speeds I would imagine this printer uses >>>> 1.75 mm filament although that could always be changed with a new >>>> extruder/hot end kit. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know what the print speed of the Thing-o-matic is? I think >>>> the build envelope is only 120mmx120mmx120mm. That is quite small, if >>>> correct. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Benjamin Bergman >>>> <b...@benbergman.ca>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm waiting on a response from their support team to confirm that all >>>>> required parts are included, but it looks like we can have it for $1650 + >>>>> whatever duty there is at the border. >>>>> >>>>> We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can >>>>> jump start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, maybe we can get some of >>>>> Ward's at $50, otherwise we need to get one shipped for maybe $75-100. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Bergman >>>>> <b...@benbergman.ca>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Editing the wiki now. Will look up shipping shortly. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds good to me! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you could figure out the final cost, that'd be great. We're at >>>>>>> $1250 >>>>>>> right now, I can post to announce@ again when we have the final >>>>>>> option. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, would you mind posting the two choices to the wiki page? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-01-31 09:14, Benjamin Bergman wrote: >>>>>>> > Mendel Max 2.0 sounds great! They have a free parts upgrade for >>>>>>> the beta, >>>>>>> > so any parts that change in the final release could be ours for >>>>>>> just the >>>>>>> > price of shipping. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > So, now we just need to figure out the shipping cost and then we >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> > propose that as the #1 choice. I think Ward's Thing-o-Matic is >>>>>>> still a >>>>>>> > decent second choice in case we can't raise enough as it is >>>>>>> shipping free, >>>>>>> > works, and has free setup + instruction from him. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Stefan H.A <stefan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > I've been looking at the availability of printers and I'd like >>>>>>> to add >>>>>>> > > another for consideration. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > First off, the Mendel Max Pro doesn't seem to be available >>>>>>> anymore. The >>>>>>> > > website linked to in the Make review now sells what seems to be >>>>>>> a more >>>>>>> > > expensive version of the printer I'm about to talk about. >>>>>>> > > http://trinitylabs.com/products/aluminatus-trinityone-3d-printer >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > The Mendel Max 2.0 is my primary recommendation, if we can get >>>>>>> one. Here's >>>>>>> > > why. >>>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/ >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Pros: >>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 245 mm x 315 mm x 225 mm >>>>>>> (9.6"x12.4"x8.9") >>>>>>> > > - Usable Maximum Print Speed: 250mm/sec or more depending on the >>>>>>> part, >>>>>>> > > print material, and extruder >>>>>>> > > - Frame: All aluminum >>>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/?wiki=mendelmax-versions >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Cons: >>>>>>> > > - Currently in beta >>>>>>> > > - Won't ship until February 25 >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>> > > -$1395.00 as a kit >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> http://store.makerstoolworks.com/printer-kits/mendelmax-2-0-beta-kit/ >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > It prints 100mm/sec faster and has a larger print envelope than >>>>>>> both the >>>>>>> > > Ultimaker and the Mendel Max 1.5. It is also closely related to >>>>>>> the open >>>>>>> > > source Reprap project and community. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Ultimaker. >>>>>>> > > http://ultimaker.com/ >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Specs: >>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 211mm x 211mm x 211mm (8.3″×8.3″×8.3″) >>>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>> > > - $2310.00 fully assembled, however I suspect it might be >>>>>>> prohibitively >>>>>>> > > expensive to ship from Europe. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/assembled-ultimakers/assembled-um.html >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > - $1625.00 as a kit >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/ultimaker-kits/ultimaker-kit-new.html >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Mendel Max 1.5. >>>>>>> > > http://reprap.org/wiki/MendelMax >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Specs: >>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: ~215-230 mm x ~215-250 mm x ~140-175 mm >>>>>>> > > (9"x10"x7") >>>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>> > > - $1906.00 fully assembled, shipping $498.82 >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Fully-Assembled-and-Tuned-IC3D-RepRap-3D-Printer-MendelMax-/111002420941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d84286cd >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > - $900.00 - $1200.00 as a kit, shipping $120.00 - $160.00 >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mendelmax-Ultimate-3d-printer-kit-Ramps-LCD-Printed-Parts-Complete-Color-Choice-/281055575886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417037bf4e >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Making a secondary recommendation between these two printers is >>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>> > > because I don't know very much about the Ultimaker style of >>>>>>> printer. I was >>>>>>> > > prepared to recommend the Ultimaker over the Mendel Max 1.5 >>>>>>> until I >>>>>>> > > converted the build dimensions into the same units and realized >>>>>>> the Mendel >>>>>>> > > Max 1.5 has about the same or more print area (depending on >>>>>>> where you look >>>>>>> > > it up), although less height. As far as print resolution (z-axis >>>>>>> > > resolution) is concerned, because these printers use threaded >>>>>>> rod to drive >>>>>>> > > the z-axis they are all mechanically capable of printing down to >>>>>>> very low >>>>>>> > > layer heights like .04mm. The ability to do so will depend on >>>>>>> what kind of >>>>>>> > > extruder nozzle is fitted to the printer and how you configure >>>>>>> the slicing >>>>>>> > > software. Given all of this I think my secondary recommendation >>>>>>> is still >>>>>>> > > the Mendal Max 1.5. 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