Follow up: nobody at the meeting had a problem with the data being collected and used in the ways I described.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Alex Weber <[email protected]> wrote: > All: I'm aware of the potential inaccuracies. I just wanted to see if > there was any interesting trends in the data. That's all! > Ron: The data will be anonymized. No worries. > Robert: Good idea re: DHCP, I will keep that in mind. > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Robert Keizer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yup. >> >> Because CSIS would send in me rather than snoop our basically open wifi :) >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Kevin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:41:17 -0800 >>> Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Neat idea, but a lot of people go there to play video games or board >>> > games or creepy dolls or to work on non-computer stuff. It wouldn't be >>> a >>> > very good number, in my opinion. >>> > >>> > So, I wasn't at the meeting and I don't have context. I'm wondering, >>> why >>> > do we want to collect this information? Is it just for the sake of >>> > collection or to solve a non-existent problem? Or is there an actual >>> > use case? >>> > >>> >>> I have suspicions that Rob secretly works for CSIS and they were having >>> trouble obtaining statistics on SkullSpace participants due to their >>> privacy habits. >>> >>> > As usual, I stand on the "don't solve problems that don't exist" side >>> of >>> > things, but maybe there IS something that I'm missing. >>> > >>> > Ron >>> > >>> > On 2014-01-29 11:35, Robert Keizer wrote: >>> > > If we want to know who is around the space, why don't we just keep >>> > > statistics on DHCP handouts / renewls? Strip the MAC, and just leave >>> the >>> > > timestamp. >>> > > >>> > > My guess is that at least 90% of the members connect at least their >>> > > cellphone to the network, if not their laptops and such. >>> > > >>> > > Obviously not terribly accurate.. but in conjunction with the door >>> swipe >>> > > stuff it may be useful. >>> > > >>> > > Rob >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > I think we need facial recognition on the cameras at the door. We >>> can >>> > > > tie into MPI's photograph database so we can identify everybody who >>> > > > comes in, member and not. >>> > > > >>> > > > Ron >>> > > > >>> > > > On 2014-01-29 10:56, Roswyne wrote: >>> > > > > I don't think it'll be very effective, since many people can >>> enter on one >>> > > > > swipe. Also, people often prop the door open. :) >>> > > > > On Jan 29, 2014 10:54 AM, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > On 2014-01-28 18:30, Courtney Lofchick wrote: >>> > > > > > > Logs for door entry >>> > > > > > > - to see which days and times are most popular >>> > > > > > > - does anyone object? >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Logging activity is fine. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Logging names isn't, IMO. I don't like the idea of tracking >>> people. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Btw, why does this matter? It seems to me that the most >>> popular times >>> > > > > > are the times when people are there, and we probably don't >>> need door >>> > > > > > logs to tell us that. :) >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Ron >>> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > > > > > Help: >>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > > > > > Archive: >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > > > > Help: >>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > > > > Archive: >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > > > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > > > Archive: >>> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kevin <[email protected]> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > >
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