Hi David and Lou,

Even if this bug is fixed under Leopard I'm going to highlight and bookmark
Lou's post for a solution.

Esther

On  Dec 14, 2007, at 10:14AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>I think this bug is fixed in leopard.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:05 PM
>Subject: Command-F5/Restarting Computer does not turn VO on
>
>
>Hello!
>
>I know this problem has already been resolved for Simon, but this  
>info might help others experiencing the problem of VO not talking...  
>It did not dawn on me to provide this info previously until I heard  
>Simon's solution was, with sighted assistance, to physically turn on  
>VO using the mouse.
>
>Ever since I installed Mac OS X 10.4.11, this problem has been  
>cropping up for me. I will be working in Safari, Mail or Vienna and  
>the Mac becomes "busy." After clearing the application's "busy" state  
>in one  of the many ways described in this forum, Voice Over  
>occasionally stops speaking and cannot be turned back on again with  
>Command-F5 (generates the "invalid" beep)  -- or even restarting the  
>computer.
>With sighted assistance, I discovered that:
>- the "Command-F5 check box in "KeyboArd Shortcuts" was, indeed,  
>checked (even tried unchecking and rechecking this box to see if it  
>had any affect),
>- the Voice Over "Off" radio button was selected in the Universal  
>Access/Seeing Pane of System Preferences.
>
>Because the computer was not accepting the Command-F5 keyboard  
>command, the only way to turn VO back on was to use the mouse to  
>click the VO "On" button.
>
>This happened several times while I had no sighted assistance around  
>-- *** VERY FRUSTRATING! *** I figured there must be a way to turn VO  
>back on again without sighted assistance. Here is what I did:
>1. Press Control-F2 to move the mouse to the Menu Bar.
>2. Press the Down Arrow to open the Apple Menu.
>3. Quickly type "sy" to jump to System Preferences.
>4. Press Return to open System Preferences.
>5. Press Control-F2 to return to the Menu Bar.
>6. Press "v" to jump to the "View" menu.
>7. Press Down Arrow to open the View Menu.
>8. Press "u" to jump to "Universal Access."
>9. Press Return to open the Universal Access Pane of System Preferences.
>10. Press Tab twice to select the Voice Over On/Off controls.
>12. Press Left Arrow to select the Voice Over "On" radio button.
>
>At this point, Voice Over starts talking again and (miraculously)  
>Command-F5 starts working again.
>
>Notes:
>- I am running Tiger 10.4.11, so I do not know if these steps will be  
>the same under Leopard.
>- In step 11, the first time you press the Tab key takes you to the  
>"tab bar" where the various tabs for Universal Access sections are  
>located. I have the "Seeing" Tab already selected, so I do not have  
>to mess with it. If the "Seeing" tab is not selected for you, you  
>will have to move to a different Tab with the Left and/or Right  
>Arrows -- but, because there is no feedback, I think this may have  
>the potential of causing some problems... I suggest setting the tab  
>to "Seeing" while you have VO working as a precaution. This way, you,  
>too, could just press the TAB key twice like I did and not worry  
>about it.
>- Maybe, one of you Apple Script/Automater geniuses might be able to  
>create an app that could, in emergencies, do this for us automatically.
>
>Hope this helps someone...
>
>Lou.
>
>=== Original Messages ===
>
>Dear Simon,
>
>Delighted to hear that you are connected and that Voiceover is up and
>running. Thank you for providing us with the details of what happened.
>
><snip>
>Dear Esther and All,
>
>I have finally got my Voceover back!!! I'm delighted, relieved and  
>very very
>excited at the quality of the default voice in Leopard. A sighted  
>friend of
>mine came over a couple of hours ago, and using the mouse, activated
>Voceover in the system preferences. It works!
>
><snip>
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