Hi,
Somewhere in this thread the question was asked
about what to do. I've had the biggest response
by simply showing Macs and VO to my state agency
and SIGS. I saw another post earlier about
Oregon state taking notice. It's a grass roots
effort and based on market share it will only be
getting easier in the future. From my limited
show and tells, I know a few people have taken a
closer look.
Ok, can't help take a poke here, I tend to be
liberal on the language issue. All words have a
place, even bad ones. Personally, I go nuts
reading fluffy bunny posts that are full of happy
inserts and happy facial expressions and all that
stuff. Yuck. Why can't we all be grumpy
together.
To each their own.
Dang, rereading, I think I sound like a UK'er....
Cheers,
Scott
At 6:08 PM -0400 5/21/08, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I've always love your post and the only reason I
said it that way is because I am amongst
friends. If it would have been a AFB convention
then it would have been omitted. I just got back
from a Blind and Low Vision demonstration where
yours truly demonstrated the Mac and it's uses
while confronting the myths that were out there
about us and the screen reader and rest assure
that I didn't curse, but I did kick some a$$ if
I may say so myself. Come on people lighten up,
we are not talking to the AFB we are talking to
friends. The thing that gets me is that no one
actually post to the AFB list and tell them how
wrong they are. You get on me for one simple
word and over look all my good. Again point well
laid out and well taken. I am very happy to
announce that we will soon have three or more
Mac list members, I will have three people to
train and I think one of them curses. Please be
kind to her.
On May 21, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Oh, and actually Shaun, one thing you said,
regarding people not noting how Mac users cuss
is false. <smile> In all honesty, that was
one of the first things that jumped out at me;
-the seeming prevalence of the lack of
intelligence of blind / VI Mac users.
I.E. Mac users as a whole tend to have the
reputation of being a bit more intelligent than
the usual Windows user, (whether true or not)
<smile> however, my first exp with some of the
VI users I'd heard from, really went quite the
other way, -leaving the above stereotype quite
in reverse in my own experience.
Now, obviously, there are some extremely
intelligent people here, and the above is
afterall, only a stereotype, however, remember
that the world tends to have a nasty lil habit
of judging people on such.
<smile> I'm sure you catch my meaning.
Thanks for reading and have an awesome day!
Rock!
Cara :)
On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
I can tell you right now, that if I read two
notes by two different people, on just about
anything, and one is full of cussing,and one
is written intelligently; whether I agree or
disagree with the intelligent person, I'm
certainly going to have a bit more respect for
them. <smile>
Now, anyone who knows me, knows that I
certainly have the skill to interject the
perfect / creative / well-placed curse from
time to time when necessary, ( and I do make
it a good one! :) ) -and trust me, it's an
art form, <smile> however, when you've got
quite a lot of people very able to express
themselves very well, who happen to be in the
majority, and a small group of folks cussin'
their lil brains out 'cause they're upset and
they're not getting the attention that they
think the product they use deserves, *sniff*
(no matter how true it may be) it just doesn't
make for great press! <smile>
Know what I mean? There are certain times
when eloquence and elegance really make the
day.
Smiles,
Cara :)
On May 21, 2008, at 6:55 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Those are crap statements. We take shots at
Microsoft all the time and call them all
sorts of names without a second thought.
Nobody says use mature language when the're
at a football game or a NASCAR event. Please
get off the high horse and take a stand for
what you believe. this is not a presidential
election and Windows or Mac is not the Holy
Bible for Christ sake. A curse word will not
hurt Apple in the least. The people writing
the blog aren't sitting around saying Uh,
those Mac users have such fowl mouths. It is
clear that they don't even read this list,
because if they did they would see that the
Mac can do whatever is needed including run
Windows better than a Windows machine. If you
don't stand for something, then you'll fall
for anything. I admit that maybe the word
could have been butt instead of a^^ but
really guys, this doesn't hurt anyones
opinion of Apple unless they are Nuns or
something.
On May 21, 2008, at 8:16 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
While passion is all well and good, we do need to be certain we are using
mature language to express ourselves.
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