Hi Justin, Shaun, Orin, and Others

You may be able to get the insert function working even on the new
laptops that don't have a num lock key.  I found out that some of the
num-pad keys work even on these laptops if you turn on mouse keys.
Tim was able to confirm that some of these keys, including the "0"
key worked under NumPad Commander.  I used the "5" key  as a
"Mouse click" by turning on mouse keys and pressing FN+5 without
turning on NumPad Commander.

I don't think anyone has tested out this function, though, where I wrote:
<begin excerpt>
Another point:  I heard that a lot of Fusion users were upset because 
there wasn't an easy way to get the Insert key working when the 
num lock function went away on the new MacBooks.  (They were used to 
using the "m" key on the simulated number pad).  I wonder whether 
Fn+m under Mouse Keys will work for this? 
<end excerpt>

Here's Tim's reply to the part of my post (of two days ago) about:
Discovery: Some Numpad commands work on the new MacBook and 
MacBook Pro Laptops

> Hi Esther, 

> Ester wrote:  I was in the Apple Store today trying out MacBook and   
> MacBook Pro laptops 
> and I found that I could get some of the number pad functions to work 
> even though these laptops (since December 2007) have been made without 
> the num lock function of the F6 key.  Specifically, if I turned on 
> mouse keys, then FN+i worked like a mouse click just as if I had   
> pressed 
> "5" on the number pad of a full keyboard, or tried this on the number 
> pad area of my own laptop.  Someone who is familiar with Numpad   
> Commander 
> in Leopard can check whether other commands work on these laptops 
> when you use this mode. 
> 
> TK:  This is a very interesting discovery indeed.  Using Leopard, I   
> turned on the NumPad controller as suggested by Esther.  I then set   
> Mouse Keys to be able to be turned on by pressing the Option key 5   
> times.  The main area of the virtual NumPad now becomes available.   
> That is, 7-8-9 on the top row, U-I-O becomes 4-5-6, J-K-L becomes   
> 1-2-3 M becomes 0 and the period is the decimal.  With Keyboard   
> Practice on, along with Mouse Keys, this is confirmed as VO   
> announces the key and also announces the command associated to the   
> specific key of the NumPad Controller.  The limitations come when   
> you attempt to access the other keys on the NumPad such as plus,   
> minus clear etc.  There is no reference to these keys in this   
> version of the virtual NumPad.  You can though use the modifier keys   
> like ctrl, option, command and shift to map those commands to the   
> existing number keys.  For example, I mapped the Perform Action as   
> option-5 or option-I and the Contextual menu to ctrl-5 or ctrl-I. 

Now, the problem arises when attempting to use MacOS keyboard commands   
because the cmd-key has lost its functionality for pressing things   
like cmd-w to close or cmd-o to Open.  I imagine that I could get used   
to using a double-click of the "5" or "I" key to open instead but   
there still would be some frustrations in that regard.  Someone else   
may have a work around for this but in my limited testing I couldn't   
come up with a good idea yet. 


Cheers,

Esther

P.S.  I'm not sure I would want to give up access to the Command key.

On June 07, 2008, at 03:02PM, "Justin Harford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>if you have a num-pad.
>
>Regards
>Justin Harford
>
>Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and  
>looked awhile, pondering his voyage
>
>John Milton
>Paradise Lost
>
>On Jun 7, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Shaun Jones wrote:
>
>> You can use the 0 key on the number pad to get the insert function  
>> working.
>> On Jun 7, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Orin wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Please, I'd rather not use window eyes. There must be a way to fix  
>>> this stupid problem regarding the jaws key. I turned on the laptop  
>>> layout and tried using the Mac capslock and the Mac capslock comes  
>>> on.
>>>
>>> I couldn't find insert on my iMac keyboard either.
>>>
>>> This is all I'll need, really.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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