in what instances can you not lock the vo keys?  If you want to learn about 
about numpad commander, you can press vokeys-question mark and type numpad 
in the search field.  you'll want to interact with the html but there is a 
list of commands and their function.  You can also look at the list of 
commands and functions by opening the vo utility and focusing on the numpad 
payne and then tab to the list.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Estelita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: sticky key setting


Hi Esther,
Your suggestion is brilliant!
Yeah I'm using Leopard in my iMac with full standard keyboard, but I have no
idea how to use the key pad to be honest.
I have vo tutorial, but never heard this bit.
I know how to lock the vo keys, but not at all time that it allows me to do
so.
I mean locking the vo keys doesn't work in some applications.
Best regards,

Estelita

----- Original Message -----
From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: sticky key setting


> Hi Estrelita,
>
> Since you said you have an iMac, you may find it easier to use
> NumPad Commander key sequences.  This is basically a way of
> using the number pad on a full keyboard to pre-define some key
> sequence combinations and bind them to the number pad keys.
>
> For example, turn this feature on by pressing Control-Option-F8
> to open the VoiceOver Utility and then select NumPad in the
> Category Table.  Select the enable NumPad Commander
> checkbox (press Control-Option-Space to check the box and
> turn on NumPad Commander).  Type Command-W to quite the
> VoiceOver Utiltiy Window.
>
> Now you can use the Number Pad "Plus" key to start interacting
> with an item and the Number Pad "Minus" key to stop interacting
> with an item.
>
> You can also customize the Number Pad so that instead of these
> defaults, you can assign other key combinations to the Number
> Pad intead of holding down these sets of keys.
>
> I'm not using Leopard, and I have a laptop (no number pad), so
> someone else can probably give you better instructions.  This
> is another alternative to locking the VoiceOver keys with the
> Command-Option-semi-colon sequence Chelsea suggested.
>
> Generally, I only lock the VoiceOver keys when I'm reading
> through a long document with only navigation keys in use.
> After all, in most instances you'll have to unlock the VoiceOver
> keys (by pressing the semi-colon key again) to enter other
> commands.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> P.S. On a laptop I just hold down the shift key with my left
> ring finger, the control key with my middle left finger, and
> the option key with my left forefinger  (using my left hand).
> I press the down arrow key (or up arrow key) with the
> center finger of my right hand.  This is actually fairly easy
> for me to do to start or stop interacting.
>
> On June 08, 2008, at 12:59PM, Chelsea wrote:
> >Hi, you can press VO keys plus ; and the VO keys will be locked so
> >that you don't have to hold them down.
> >On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Estelita wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> Any suggestion please on how to set the vo sticky keys?
> >> Like for instance in interacting command, we have to press down the
> >> option
> >> key, ctrl key and shift key together while pressing the up or down
> >> arrow,
> >> which is very difficult to do.
> >> If the sticky key is set, then we only have one or two keys to press
> >> to do
> >> in some operation.
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> Estelita
> >>
>



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