the law is contrary to what they are asking for. they do not need nor is it desireable to provide such. what is desireable and needful and legal is o provide a compliant application.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Jurgensen`" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:06 AM Subject: Re: Help needed with basic Css for VO Hi, I spoke to my senior programer about my issue, and I received the response that we need a simple, compact interface optimized for screen readers and modifying the existing source code would take several years to do. I managed to sort of hide my text by using an image of the text instead of html, but the effect isn't the best. A Css inplimentation would be the best. Thanks for listening, Alex, On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:19 AM, David Poehlman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not advisable nor is it documented as to how to do this. please > just > follow accessability guidelines and show your university the relivant > materials to force their hand. if you need help forcing their hand, we > can > help. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Jurgensen`" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: Help needed with basic Css for VO > > > Hi,Lol, > > I am "aware" of the issues, but there is very little I can do about > accessibility within the existing infrastructure. I am finding that I > don't > know enough programming in the required language to modify existing code, > and the result would, even if I could modify it, be probably a mockery, > without special training. Lol, I am only fifteen, so fogive me if this > sounds stupid. I am trying do do what is best for the end users. > > The mail client I am trying to adapt is "open source", but the sighted > users > pages are too crowded as it is. The university won't have a screen reader > compliant client until I complete the code for a screen reader specific > mode, nicknamed Open-Web-Accessibility. I want to develope something with > screen users in mind as adapting sites, while allowing access, is not > really > optimized in my oppinion for the blind end user. > > I don't remember, when I intoroduced myself to this list, but I am a VO > user, and the Standard and Advanced interface, while usable, present a > number of difficulties due to visual components such as images and icons. > > Hope this is helpful, > Thanks for listening, > Alex, > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alex Jurgensen` wrote: > > > >> I am using Css to hide certain text that clutters the page and that ony > >> sighted users could use such as the fact that the web browsing mode is > >> a > >> screen reader compliant mode. I litterly have "You are browsing "ICE" > >> in > >> Screen Reader Mode" at the top. I want to add a switch to advanced or > >> standard mode links for sighted users that navigate to the screen > >> reader > >> mode of my page. > >> > > > > There's no reliable technique for hiding content from screen reader > users. > > Mere text could be (very hackily) "hidden" by placing it in an image > > with > > alt="", but this will be invisible to some sighted users too. Normal > > links > > and controls would be very difficult to hide; JS-based fake controls > might > > be easier to hide but won't be usable by all sighted users (not just > > because > > of the dependency on JS, but also because they won't necessarily be > > keyboard > > accessible). > > > > All this is unneccesary to the blind user, as it is a > >> separate service of the university than standard and advanced mode. > >> Basically, my task is to make a screen reader specific page. > >> > > > > You're perhaps aware of the issues, but in general creating a screen > > reader > > specific mode is a suboptimal approach compared to fixing the other > > modes > > to > > work with assistive technology. See this discussion from RNIB: > > > > > > > http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/public_textbasedwebsites.hcsp > > > > -- > > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis > > > > > > > -- > Alex A.AWEBSIGHT administrator > AWEBSIGHT web team > "Blindness is a gift, not a disability." > B.C unit > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.VisionMail.uni.cc/ > > > > -- Alex A.AWEBSIGHT administrator AWEBSIGHT web team "Blindness is a gift, not a disability." B.C unit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.VisionMail.uni.cc/
