Please do feel free to disregard here, if you need to; I must ask, am I missing something here?…

Why is it a problem to simply have the text spoken by a screen reader as well as seen by a sighted user?… I personally wouldn't mind reading such a line of text on the page which states which mode I'm in.

As I said, am just curious, so feel free to respond if you've the time / inclination, otherwise, no biggie, and best of luck!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Alex Jurgensen` wrote:

Hi,
I spoke to my senior programer about my issue, and I received the response that we need a simple, compact interface optimized for screen readers and
modifying the existing source code would take several years  to do. I
managed to sort of hide my text by using an image of the text instead of html, but the effect isn't the best. A Css inplimentation would be the best.

Thanks for listening,
Alex,


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:19 AM, David Poehlman <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It is not advisable nor is it documented as to how to do this. please just
follow accessability guidelines and show your university the relivant
materials to force their hand. if you need help forcing their hand, we can
help.

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From: "Alex Jurgensen`" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Help needed with basic Css for VO


Hi,Lol,

I am "aware" of the issues, but there is very little I can do about
accessibility within the existing infrastructure. I am finding that I don't know enough programming in the required language to modify existing code, and the result would, even if I could modify it, be probably a mockery, without special training. Lol, I am only fifteen, so fogive me if this
sounds stupid. I am trying do do what is best for the end users.

The mail client I am trying to adapt is "open source", but the sighted
users
pages are too crowded as it is. The university won't have a screen reader compliant client until I complete the code for a screen reader specific mode, nicknamed Open-Web-Accessibility. I want to develope something with
screen users in mind as adapting sites, while allowing access, is not
really
optimized in my oppinion for the blind end user.

I don't remember, when I intoroduced myself to this list, but I am a VO user, and the Standard and Advanced interface, while usable, present a number of difficulties due to visual components such as images and icons.

Hope this is helpful,
Thanks for listening,
Alex,


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alex Jurgensen` wrote:

I am using Css to hide certain text that clutters the page and that ony sighted users could use such as the fact that the web browsing mode is a screen reader compliant mode. I litterly have "You are browsing "ICE" in Screen Reader Mode" at the top. I want to add a switch to advanced or standard mode links for sighted users that navigate to the screen reader
mode of my page.


There's no reliable technique for hiding content from screen reader
users.
Mere text could be (very hackily) "hidden" by placing it in an image with alt="", but this will be invisible to some sighted users too. Normal
links
and controls would be very difficult to hide; JS-based fake controls
might
be easier to hide but won't be usable by all sighted users (not just
because
of the dependency on JS, but also because they won't necessarily be
keyboard
accessible).

All this is unneccesary to the blind user, as it is a
separate service of the university than standard and advanced mode.
Basically, my task is to make a screen reader specific page.


You're perhaps aware of the issues, but in general creating a screen
reader
specific mode is a suboptimal approach compared to fixing the other modes
to
work with assistive technology. See this discussion from RNIB:



http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/PublicWebsite/public_textbasedwebsites.hcsp

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