question for you alex;
when is this going to be out?
mike
On Jan 26, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
The Z project provides what this one lacks, the ability to render
speech on the fly.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 26-Jan-09, at 1:08 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi Josh
I agree the price of MS is outrageous. However, one must compare
the functionality of an iPhone with pre-rendered speech against a
phone with Mobile speak. I'm afraid, in this case, the iPhone with
pre-rendered speech falls way short of the mark. This approach is
fine for the iPod Nano, where you already know in advance most of
what you will encounter. The iPhone is too dynamic for this to work
and, if given the choice of a wm-powered phone with mobile speak or
a pre-rendered iPhone at the same cost, I'd have to go for the
former unfortunately.
I've heard all kinds of horror stories about the AT&T mobile speak
deal. I didn't have to deal with that, I'm on T-mobile. While that
means I didn't get a deal, it also meant that I didn't have to even
think about the headache, and got to pick the phone I wanted
without worrying about whether customer service would give me hell
at a later date. :)
Hopefully this is not the approach Apple ends up taking, and I
doubt they will. The Apple accessibility team certainly seems to
know what they're about, and I'm sure they will have taken this
into consideration.
What this demo is, however, is an interesting concept about how the
touchscreen could work. Not how I would have done it, but an
interesting concept demonstration all the same.
On Jan 26, 2009, at 15:14, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
Hi Jacob,
While I totally agree with your comments on pre-rendered speech,
I'd like to point out that any WM6 powered phone with a mobile
screen reader is going to run you as much or more than a new
iPhone at $199. MobileSpeak is outrageous, and the AT&T
subsidizing of MS is a complete joke. My GF has the same exact
phone as I do, we're both on AT&T, and her voice plan is the same
as mine, and yet they will not sell her MobileSpeak, though they
had no problem selling it to me. It's ridiculous. Their
reasoning? They say it doesn't work on that model of phone. It
does, their web site says it does, and i've been using it on my
phone for ages.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. If we could get an iPhone that was
accessible out of the box, it would be a much cheaper proposition
than a WM 6 phone.
Josh de Lioncourt
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On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi
The only problem with having pre-rendered speech on the iPhone is
that the device has way too many capabilities to be covered by
any type of pre-rendered speech. It may be able to pre-render
the main menus and the phone book, and your music library. Then
what? Web browsing? Email? Applications? Text messaging? None of
that would work, and that's what makes the iPhone worth having
IMHO. Otherwise I'd just by a new wm6 phone at half the price.
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